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    #31
    Guys the bottom line is these discussions of should have/could have are useless. Its football and there are tons of unjust calls during a game, so you can't really prove something by saying "if he didnt do this or that...it would have ended like this"

    The point is even if a call is called correctly, it would still change the game after it. Everything that happens affects the game after it.


    So lets get over whinning on Italy's win because there are enough unfair calls against italy than it was For Italy. In the end, it all works out correctly and this is how the system is. We've been used to it all our lives and you should learn to live with it. At least they didnt win the World cup by a HAND goal like maradona or something.

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      #32
      Originally posted by zereshk-ali
      watch the second angle again man - Materazzi's pulls out of the initial challenge but when his left foot comes down it clips his heel. like I say, I have no bias here.

      dude, i've watched that video a million times, No one touched him. Materazzi's foot did come infront but DONT tell me thats what caused malouda to fall
      LOL....malouda was already diving forward when he saw mat. running towards him. It was purely a professional dive just like Figo did to us and what grosso did to australia. Its just that theirs was more convincing because of the contact. This dive of malouda however had NO contact.

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        #33
        Originally posted by babak_australia
        how bout the france penalty against Italy in the final?? Was that a penalty?
        I thought it was a slight clip, but Malouda sold the referee, basically if i had been the ref I would have called the pk.

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          #34
          I personally think there was a slight tap but not enough to get a pk. But then some 15 minutes later, same situation with malouda where i actually thought he got fouled, didnt get called. I think penalties on dives should be put and there should be instant replay. About Henry, he got tripped and watch the spain, portugal, and barcelona games, they take advantage of henry being so clean. They friggin foul him so much but he never sells it because thats not him. Now think about if henry here went through with the play against portugal. He trips on the dudes foot slows down the other guy clears it. He gets fouled but there is no call because he did not sell it. I think there is no irregularity here because if he doesnt fall, the ref wont call it and the foul would have prevented a possible goal.
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            #35
            Originally posted by babak_australia
            Are u joking man. Henry was tripped. Watch Henry games man, he is an honest player. He didnt even put his hand up for a penalty. It was given by the ref with no persuasion.
            yea like His dive against Puyol?
            Just because he didn t raise his hands doesn t mean he is honest.....He took a fkin dive and that s how france scored that shty own goal late in the game that even got them to those stages....
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              #36
              Originally posted by EKBATAN
              You guys are so stubborn and will never give up...
              Angle or no angle, NO ONE TOUCHED HIM. PERIOD!

              :/
              I don t like france...but he got cliped.....call me Italy Hater...but I don t like France neither but materazzi did just enough to trip him, not that it was intentional, but still tripped him
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                #37
                Originally posted by EKBATAN
                dude, i've watched that video a million times, No one touched him. Materazzi's foot did come infront but DONT tell me thats what caused malouda to fall
                LOL....malouda was already diving forward when he saw mat. running towards him. It was purely a professional dive just like Figo did to us and what grosso did to australia. Its just that theirs was more convincing because of the contact. This dive of malouda however had NO contact.
                When Brazil won the World Cup back in 2002 after there were no such dicussions as we are having now! Everyone praised their entertaining style of play that no one was able to match, they went into every game won whilst entertaining. My point is that Brazil won it convincingly whereas everyone does not accept Italy as TRUE champions they believe they had a considerable amount of luck on their side.

                Though to Italy's credit they had a magnificent defense but cant say much about their offensive game. If everyone played Italy's style of defensive football I can gaurantee football would become a shit game, who wants to see a ball go back and forth with no flow?! Its teams like Brazil, Holland, Argentina, France and Czech that make the game entertaining and great to watch.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 186forever
                  yea like His dive against Puyol?
                  Just because he didn t raise his hands doesn t mean he is honest.....He took a fkin dive and that s how france scored that shty own goal late in the game that even got them to those stages....
                  The funny thing is i dont go for France man i go for Holland so i am not being biased, once again that huge flag in your avatar is being over bearing.

                  Slow the video down and just watch puyol raise his foot, its pretty obvious u ask me....unless u dont want to see it then it is a different story.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by futbol>>>IRAN
                    When Brazil won the World Cup back in 2002 after there were no such dicussions as we are having now! Everyone praised their entertaining style of play that no one was able to match, they went into every game won whilst entertaining. My point is that Brazil won it convincingly whereas everyone does not accept Italy as TRUE champions they believe they had a considerable amount of luck on their side.
                    Though to Italy's credit they had a magnificent defense but cant say much about their offensive game. If everyone played Italy's style of defensive football I can gaurantee football would become a shit game, who wants to see a ball go back and forth with no flow?! Its teams like Brazil, Holland, Argentina, France and Czech that make the game entertaining and great to watch.

                    Italy is the champ no matter what, its just a few of you haters in this world who cant accept it. I already knew this was their year to win cuz its been a long time since 1990 world cup and they've had very bad luck. I knew no matter how italy was going to win, there was gonna be people like you poppin out of everywhere saying they didnt deserve it.
                    No one said brazil had it easy cuz they beat TURKEY to go to the final as italy beat the HOST (hardest team of the tournament) to get to the final. In 2002, brazil barely even made it to the world cup and they had a easy road cuz the whole 2002 world cup was a bullshit fixed tournament to let korea or japan get far cuz it was their own country Give me a break man...people love brazil cuz they entertain but italy has the most PROFESSIONAL team and they won this cup as a team, not one player lead them the whole way to victory, they all contributed and they scored the most goals. You guys can't say anything as i have back up for everything you might say.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by EKBATAN
                      dude, i've watched that video a million times, No one touched him. Materazzi's foot did come infront but DONT tell me thats what caused malouda to fall
                      LOL....malouda was already diving forward when he saw mat. running towards him. It was purely a professional dive just like Figo did to us and what grosso did to australia. Its just that theirs was more convincing because of the contact. This dive of malouda however had NO contact.
                      what caused malouda to fall was his heels clipping together.

                      mate, watch the clip again, and this time with a bit of obectivity...after another viewing you're still telling me that Malouda is "already diving forward when he sees Materazzi running toward him"?!

                      and you're telling me you can be certain there was no contact between the sole of Materazzi's left foot as he brings it down and Malouda's right foot? freeze the frame just before Malouda clips his heels together and you'll see part of Materazzi's foot is obscured by Malouda's boot.

                      if there was no contact, that means you're saying that Malouda manages to clip his own heels together at exactly the same time that Materazzi brings his foot down within millimetres of it. in which case that is a pretty impressive skill. hats off to the man!

                      also watch the way Materazzi's left boot moves at the exact moment of contact the other way suggesting that the impact of Malouda's foot causes his foot to move forward slightly.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by 186forever
                        I don t like france...but he got cliped.....call me Italy Hater...but I don t like France neither but materazzi did just enough to trip him, not that it was intentional, but still tripped him
                        Puyol was fouling henry all day. Henry wasnt getting the calls and took matters into his own hands. Puyol did the same thing when arsenal played barcelona.
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                          #42
                          LOL @ those who say Henry doesnt dive....

                          Im sure you all remember b4 the penalty dive, henry got knocked out cuz cannavaro's arm slightly touched his pretty face. Then the game was out of rhythm cuz he had to step aside and become conscious again.

                          That and the penalty in the first 5 minutes threw the game out of rhythm. Thats France's fault and not italy's. So the whinos need to stop it with the nonsense. France came into the final cheating and they got what they deserved in the end. I think they were lucky to be in the final in the first place, they should have been kicked out the first round by KOREA & SWISS

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by EKBATAN
                            LOL @ those who say Henry doesnt dive....
                            Im sure you all remember b4 the penalty dive, henry got knocked out cuz cannavaro's arm slightly touched his pretty face. Then the game was out of rhythm cuz he had to step aside and become conscious again.
                            That and the penalty in the first 5 minutes threw the game out of rhythm. Thats France's fault and not italy's. So the whinos need to stop it with the nonsense. France came into the final cheating and they got what they deserved in the end. I think they were lucky to be in the final in the first place, they should have been kicked out the first round by KOREA & SWISS
                            i thought you "werent gonna talk about this anymore".

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by babak_australia
                              The funny thing is i dont go for France man i go for Holland so i am not being biased, once again that huge flag in your avatar is being over bearing.
                              Slow the video down and just watch puyol raise his foot, its pretty obvious u ask me....unless u dont want to see it then it is a different story.
                              are u gonna point my freakin flag everytime I open my mouth?
                              i support a damn team like every single one of u do....So everytime u open ur mouth about Arsenal and Australia and Holland I should said ur bais?????common man.

                              I saw that a lot of times....I Think Henry took a dive. It s my damn Opinion....I m not trying to be harsh, But I m sick of people and specially You who just assume that I m being Bias because I gotta freakin flag of my team as my avatar......

                              So I guess I m being Bias when I say Spain Got Cheated in WC 94 when Luis Enrique got elbowed in the Jaw and was bleeding but still no call vs. Italy, and 98, where Nigeria beat spain only because of Zubizareta's Stupid Mistake and then relaxed at the last game on purpose and lost to Paraguay 3-1......and No comment on WC 02 vs. S. korea (which Italy were the victims too that year)????
                              Bias?

                              So If Ekbatan is saying Materazzi didn t foul Madoula He is being Bias?
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by ali_asghar
                                Puyol was fouling henry all day. Henry wasnt getting the calls and took matters into his own hands. Puyol did the same thing when arsenal played barcelona.
                                Yea so Puyol kept fouling Henry and the ref just decided to ignore it untill Henry dives and then call it? Yes very reasonable answer......
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