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    Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
    kahn had been given the GK of the year award thrice, thats the highest any GK in football history has got.

    and kahn has another record, he was THE FIRST AND ONLY GK IN A WORLDCUP TO BE GIVEN THE BEST PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT!! (WORLDCUP 2002)


    when did u start following football?? 3 years back??
    no offense omid jan, vali hanuz kheyli bacheyi. u need to study a lot of football history, past players and records and see for urself.
    I have following football since I was 9 years old and believe me I know alot about football past. Don't get me wrong kahn was a good goalkeeper but what Im saying is that Casilias and Buffon will even be better than kahn after they have retired. Thats just my opinion.

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      Originally posted by Masoud_A View Post
      Why dont you just try to shut up where you dont have any knowledge on the issue, yes please just shut up
      *EDITED*

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        Last edited by Adesor Vafaseya; 09-06-2008, 08:12 AM.

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          alright u 2, stop the insulting guys. its a friendly korkori!

          Originally posted by omiid_leo View Post
          I have following football since I was 9 years old
          and believe me I know alot about football past. Don't get me wrong kahn was a good goalkeeper but what Im saying is that Casilias and Buffon will even be better than kahn after they have retired. Thats just my opinion.
          i never disagreed about buffon, so lets leave him out of this sicne we both agree his a great GK.
          u think casillas will become better than kahn, thats ur opinion and we shall see.
          u said kahn was an average GK which i think ur totally wrong with and u wouldnt be saying this if u were following football from the age of 9.

          when casillas can beat this record of kahn, then we shall see :
          IFFHS' World's Best Goalkeeper of the Year

          The following is a list of goalkeepers selected by the IFFHS every year since 1987 as "The World's best Goalkeeper.List of Winners (European Best GK of the Year)
          Originally posted by siavasharian
          ESTEGHLAL:

          بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
          بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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              actually chilavert was quite good in savings. he was a real leader of paraguay and a solid tower in goal besides his goal scoring abilities.
              if u remember worldcup 1998, he was very good. maybe if he was playing for a stronger team or atleast a team with a better defense than paraguay, he would have appeared better as well.

              on top of that, i believe at that time, it was a matter of time period as well. chilavert won those awards in a period where most of the other top GKs were in transition, either on a decline, or just starting to shine...
              thats why, i wouldnt consider him the best GK and i doubt many others would, but he was one of the better GKs of his time around the world.
              Originally posted by siavasharian
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              بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
              بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                  and here are ALL THE PERSONAL HONOURS OLIVER KAHN HAS WON COMPARED TO CASILLAS.
                  i have underlined all the major awards of each (casillas really has none...)
                  u be the judge urself:

                  OLIVER KAHN Personal Honours

                  * Man of the match: for his performance in the Champions League Final, 2001
                  * IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper - 1st Places: 1999, 2001, 2002
                  * IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper - 2nd Place: 2000
                  * IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper - 3rd Place: 2003

                  * IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper - 4th Place: 2004
                  * Best European Goalkeeper: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002
                  * European Footballer of the Year - Bronze Ball: 2001, 2002
                  * UEFA Club Football Awards - Best Goalkeeper: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002
                  * German Footballer of the Year: 2000, 2001
                  * FIFA World Player of the year: runner-up, 2002
                  * Best Bundesliga Keeper: 1994, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002
                  * FIFA World Cup Golden Ball: 2002
                  * Best goalkeeper of the World Cup: 2002

                  IKER CASILLAS Personal Honors


                  * Bravo Award: 2000
                  * Young Player in La Liga: 1999-00[7]
                  * UEFA Team of the Year: 2007[8]
                  * ESM Team of the Year: 2007-08
                  * Zamora Trophy: 2008
                  * UEFA Euro 2008 Team of the Tournament[9]
                  * ESM Team of the Month: April-May 2000,January 2001,May 2002,February-March 2004,October-December 2007,January 2008,April 2008
                  * IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper: 2nd: 2002, 2003,3rd: 2007 4th:2006




                  as u can see,, kahn has won a great deal of individual honors from different tournaments and organizations from all around the world and europe.
                  casillas has just been nominated in best team of the tournament, best team of this month, blah blah... only twice 2nd best GK of the world in 2002 and 2003. even in 2006 and 2007 when there wasnt major compeition from GKs around the world, he ended 3rd and 4th!!!
                  didnt wannt include those crap bravo and bambi awards that both of them have won.
                  but never, BEST PLAYER OF A TOURNAMENT, or BEST GK OF THE YEAR, or BEST PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
                  Originally posted by siavasharian
                  ESTEGHLAL:

                  بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                  بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                    we played FC Koln today at cologne stadium.
                    we kicked their @$$ 3-0. 2 from toni and 1 from prince poldi.

                    could have scored atleast 3 more in the second half alone. toni missed a 1 on 1 and a tap in while ze roberto dribbled past the GK but hit wide!!

                    we played 3-5-2 but unlike ghalenoi, didnt rely only on crossing.
                    lahm, ze roberto, schweinsteiger and podolski when he entered all played great fluid ground football.

                    we played with
                    -----------------------------------------rensing----------------------------------------
                    ---------------------------------------demichellis------------------------------------
                    ----------------lucio------------------------------------------van buyten-------------
                    ------------------------------------------ottl---------------------------------------------
                    -----lell------------------------------------------------------------------------lahm------
                    ------------------ze roberto---------------------schweinsteiger-----------------------
                    -----------------------toni----------------------klose-----------------------------------

                    and then oddo came in for lell, podolski for klose and borowski for schweini all in the second half.

                    i would like to see oddo or sagnol ahead of lell. he isnt on the same class as the rest in my opinion. same for ottl. but we dont exactly have any other DM. demichellis can play there but he is a CB and has said he prefers to play CB and right now, klinsman is using him as our sweeper.
                    van bommel also isnt exactly a DM. he didnt play today. dunno why? he got a red card i know but was it last game or 2 games back??

                    hopefully, with the addition of ribery, we will become even better.
                    i think klinsman is slowly trying to inject oddo into the team. he is very experienced and has a better physique than lell. gotta wait for some time.

                    anywayz, right now, we gotta concentrate on steaue bucharest for our openning game in champions league on wednesday. i think its away at bucharest.

                    its gonna be a difficult game, probably they will be playing a closed compact defensive game and relying mostly on counter attacks.
                    im worried about rensing.

                    nevertheless, i think we can win the game away.
                    Originally posted by siavasharian
                    ESTEGHLAL:

                    بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                    بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                      Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
                      we played FC Koln today at cologne stadium.
                      we kicked their @$$ 3-0. 2 from toni and 1 from prince poldi.

                      could have scored atleast 3 more in the second half alone. toni missed a 1 on 1 and a tap in while ze roberto dribbled past the GK but hit wide!!

                      we played 3-5-2 but unlike ghalenoi, didnt rely only on crossing.
                      l
                      Stop with posting GN's name in Bayern's thread man, its bad for us

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                        IFFHS? isnt that the same organization that made this club ranking:

                        http://www.iffhs.de/?10f42e00fa2d17f...2bbb6f28f53512

                        i rest my case.

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                          Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
                          alright u 2, stop the insulting guys. its a friendly korkori!



                          i never disagreed about buffon, so lets leave him out of this sicne we both agree his a great GK.
                          u think casillas will become better than kahn, thats ur opinion and we shall see.
                          u said kahn was an average GK which i think ur totally wrong with and u wouldnt be saying this if u were following football from the age of 9.

                          when casillas can beat this record of kahn, then we shall see :
                          IFFHS' World's Best Goalkeeper of the Year

                          The following is a list of goalkeepers selected by the IFFHS every year since 1987 as "The World's best Goalkeeper.List of Winners (European Best GK of the Year)
                          rofl why are you comparing a 39 year old keeper with a 27 year old one? casillas still has 10 years left!

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                            milad, u have no case to rest.

                            casillas has a long way to go to reach kahns glory no matter how hard u try to cover it up...
                            Originally posted by siavasharian
                            ESTEGHLAL:

                            بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                            بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                              Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
                              milad, u have no case to rest.
                              casillas has a long way to go to reach kahns glory no matter how hard u try to cover it up...
                              my case was that you are extremely biased and i rested it like a lazy camel resting in the sand under the sun. if casillas continues playing like last season he can have a career like kahn. no doubt it would be hard.

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                                yea im extremely biased cos i provided all my arguments with stats

                                u on the otherhand who claims to be very objective have no stats or arguments. so all u can say is if casillas continue like this, he can have a career like kahn
                                Originally posted by siavasharian
                                ESTEGHLAL:

                                بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                                بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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