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    milad man,i don't think guti is anywhere near to be called the best passer in the world especially with his recent performances.the problem with guti is he is very inconsistent and sometimes really slow,but if guti is having a good day he's definitely one of the best playmakers out there.
    He had a great season last year,and i believe him and casillas were the best madrid players last year.
    Btw,congrats to Juve fans.I only watched the 2nd half,Juve did great defensively.

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      Juve played a really smart game today, they knew they had injuries and were playing away from home against a strong real side, so they stuck with there more defensive minded tactics and produced a good result. is it the kind of football that is exciting to watch? maybe not but effective definitely. Juventus packed the midfield today and only allowed madrid pocession on the flanks, where imo they are less of a threat. If you allow a player like Guti time and space in the middle then Madrid will punish you. Madrid should have put one or two easy chances away but didn't. Congrats Juve fans.

      As for Madrid not having a team of stars, what do you Madrid fans consider a star player??? Maybe all your players aren't Ronaldo or Kaka status, but I would say your team has plenty of stars: Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Gago, Robben, Ruud Van, Cannavaro, Sneijder... all these guys are part of the top most elite in their positions.
      VISCA EL BARCA

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        Delpierooooooooooooooooooo

        GRACIAS PEP

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          I've got a good feeling Zenit will progress instead of Real M.
          Zenit deserve to go through. i hope they do.

          And Schuster will get sacked sooon.

          GRACIAS PEP

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            Originally posted by PFS View Post
            people need to let go of that stereotype. our team isnt starstacked
            who is our star the 33 year old RVN or the 32 raul??
            we hav like 3 or 4 stars the rest are average.
            ramos, cannavaro, pepe (for THAT price he should be considered a "star"), robben, gago, diarra, casillas, van der vaart, sneijder

            none of those are "average"

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              this thread should be closed for 7 days because of azadari!!!
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                Originally posted by milad View Post
                well i was right we absolutely dominated from minute 1 to 92. we dominated more than you guys when you beat that crap team 5-0 LOL. we did miss 6 huge opportunities though so that is why the results are so different. last game we only dominated the 2nd half.
                the same "crap team" real madrid drawed to?

                also who cares about your lame excuses (which are the same, everytime real lose), at the end of the day, it wont change the fact that real lost and might not advance

                meanwhile, barca was the first time to secure advancement

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                  Originally posted by Kaebi View Post
                  ramos, cannavaro, pepe (for THAT price he should be considered a "star"), robben, gago, diarra, casillas, van der vaart, sneijder
                  none of those are "average"
                  ramos isnt a star, he hasnt been playing well since cappelo left.
                  cannavaro is too old, he cant play against quick,young strikers.
                  pepe, you've seen how he plays, he is always about give a penalty.
                  robben is world class, if his not injured
                  gago might be world class one day but schuster isnt giving him a chance to play.
                  diarra is average comparing with other DM, i think a fit neku is as good as him.
                  casillas,van der vaart and sneijder are world class.

                  compare our squad with with arsenal, man utd, chelsea, barca
                  I got no time for a signiture

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                    Originally posted by shayan20 View Post

                    Delpierooooooooooooooooooo
                    never knew you were a juve fan.

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                      Originally posted by shayan20 View Post
                      I've got a good feeling Zenit will progress instead of Real M.
                      Zenit deserve to go through. i hope they do.

                      And Schuster will get sacked sooon.
                      LOL at your double standards. so real deserved to lose when real raped juve twice as much as zenit did to us?

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                        Originally posted by Arzhang View Post
                        Juve played a really smart game today, they knew they had injuries and were playing away from home against a strong real side, so they stuck with there more defensive minded tactics and produced a good result. is it the kind of football that is exciting to watch? maybe not but effective definitely. Juventus packed the midfield today and only allowed madrid pocession on the flanks, where imo they are less of a threat. If you allow a player like Guti time and space in the middle then Madrid will punish you. Madrid should have put one or two easy chances away but didn't. Congrats Juve fans.
                        As for Madrid not having a team of stars, what do you Madrid fans consider a star player??? Maybe all your players aren't Ronaldo or Kaka status, but I would say your team has plenty of stars: Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Gago, Robben, Ruud Van, Cannavaro, Sneijder... all these guys are part of the top most elite in their positions.
                        not really.. even malaysia can produce good results when they play defensive. it is not smart at all because there is nothing to it.

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                          Originally posted by Kaebi View Post
                          ramos, cannavaro, pepe (for THAT price he should be considered a "star"), robben, gago, diarra, casillas, van der vaart, sneijder
                          none of those are "average"
                          LOL wtf? you constantly said pepe sucked and how we wasted that much on him and now you are saying he is a star? barca fans...

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                            Originally posted by Kaebi View Post
                            the same "crap team" real madrid drawed to?

                            also who cares about your lame excuses (which are the same, everytime real lose), at the end of the day, it wont change the fact that real lost and might not advance

                            meanwhile, barca was the first time to secure advancement
                            wtf are you talking about? when did real tie fc basel?

                            my excuses are not lame. they are legitimate and true. when my team loses i say the excuses, and in the rare case when there are no excuses for the loss, i give my full congratulations to the winning team.

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                              Originally posted by milad View Post
                              LOL wtf? you constantly said pepe sucked and how we wasted that much on him and now you are saying he is a star? barca fans...
                              i think he sucks
                              i just think he should be considered a star, considering his 30 millino euro price

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                                Originally posted by PFS View Post
                                ramos isnt a star, he hasnt been playing well since cappelo left.
                                cannavaro is too old, he cant play against quick,young strikers.
                                pepe, you've seen how he plays, he is always about give a penalty.
                                robben is world class, if his not injured
                                gago might be world class one day but schuster isnt giving him a chance to play.
                                diarra is average comparing with other DM, i think a fit neku is as good as him.
                                casillas,van der vaart and sneijder are world class.
                                compare our squad with with arsenal, man utd, chelsea, barca
                                Ramos is the worlds best right back
                                Cannavaro was player of the year 2006 and captain of the world champions
                                gago is world class right now, no matter few chances he gets, he's still one of the worlds best dm's

                                diarra i just assumed was world class, i dont really follow him much lol

                                btw real madrid's squad has more depth than both arsenal and man utd..

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