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    #16
    Originally posted by Pali View Post
    one man team? the least you can do is give some credit to rio and vidic.
    lets not forget rooney and tevez

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      #17
      Originally posted by Mr Pouya View Post
      lets not forget rooney and tevez
      Paul Scholes, Michael Carrick, Anderson-son-son, Owen Hargreaves, a young Michael Jackson (Nani), and of course Three Lung Park
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        #18
        Originally posted by Suprah View Post
        Paul Scholes, Michael Carrick, Anderson-son-son, Owen Hargreaves, a young Michael Jackson (Nani), and of course Three Lung Park
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          #19
          Originally posted by Suprah View Post
          You need experience and grit to grind out results and a killer touch to finish the job when things dont go your way - and in the 38 game Premier League THAT happens many a times.
          You usually need a big squad to win the league or at least challenge for it, which is one area that Wenger probably needs to address the most [and he continually refuses to do]. Once RVP and Sanga were out of the team, he didn't have much too fall back on and to make matters worse, he let Diarra go to Pompey.

          Originally posted by Suprah
          p.s. Wes Brown as RB this season >>>> Sagna as RB this season
          Wes Brown?!! You've got to be kidding!!!

          Originally posted by Suprah
          p.s p.s YES Wenger is an IDIOT for not realising that you need experience and grit to win trophies
          Or he is a visionary?

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            #20
            Originally posted by abonas View Post
            You usually need a big squad to win the league or at least challenge for it, which is one area that Wenger probably needs to address the most [and he continually refuses to do]. Once RVP and Sanga were out of the team, he didn't have much too fall back on and to make matters worse, he let Diarra go to Pompey.
            and that is stupidity

            Originally posted by abonas View Post
            Wes Brown?!! You've got to be kidding!!!
            Well with Gary Neville being out since March 2007 (14 months !!) due to injuries, Wes Brown had to be played out of position and played exceptional for us for those 14 months as right back. Solid when defending, and equally ambitious going forward and rarely committing a mistake - plus opening the scoring against the Scousers at Old Trafford To me Wes Brown has been the best and most consistently good right back the whole season. No one else comes close.

            Originally posted by abonas View Post
            Or he is a visionary?
            or stupid. Not boosting the squad, and letting other players go easily. That is exactly the reason Henry left Arsenal.
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              #21
              you guys have got to be kidding yourselves if think that man utd is not a one man team.

              Take Ronaldo away and you have nothing to say!

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                #22
                Wenger is one of the best coaches still coaching, he can create a top league squad out of scratch, and with the cash management skills he has, I'm not surprised hes not wasting money on superstars.

                I think he's still waiting for players like Fabregas and Adebayor to fully mature into real superstars, even though arguably they have.
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Suprah View Post
                  and if Wenger doesnt add steel to the side, even those folks may leave Arsenal for playing fancy but winning 0.

                  If by 'one man team' you mean Cristiano Ronaldo's 31 goals (80 in total by United), well Arsenal are same with Adebayor's 24 goals (74 in total by Arsenal) and the more likely one man team is Torres (24 goals) and Liverpool (67 in total).

                  Wenger's team isnt the only one that play attractive. We also play some really attractive, but more efficient and clinical, football and had a brilliant defence this season.

                  Something which Arsenal has lacked and that will cost them again and again, until they get the players required to be more efficient all round, and its not like Arsenal lack money. They have loads but their wage structure is too rigid. Looking at the points tally, any other league would have been won by any of the top 3, but the Premier League has become so competitive that you need efficiency and the quality to get the points as well.
                  you and the rest of england?!! Oh ye' like english know alot about football

                  thats why all their major teams are managed by foreigners and dominated by foreign players including the national team.

                  The premier league is in fact not very competitive at all , the same 4 finish the top four every season and that is mostly due to the ridiculous amounts of money poured into the clubs and the 'foreign' influence in both management and players.


                  so please dont go crediting the english about football because when it comes down to it they are useless!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by futbol>>>IRAN View Post
                    you guys have got to be kidding yourselves if think that man utd is not a one man team.
                    Take Ronaldo away and you have nothing to say!
                    Numbers dont lie kid, our defence was the best this season (22 conceded in 38 games, match that) scored the most goals (80 in 38) and the amount of assists Rooney, and Nani and Scholes and Carrick have are amazingly high. People then say oh Ronaldo only scores from penalties (just 5 this season) or freekicks (you would be orgasming if it was Juninho or Pirlo or Villa) or tap-ins or headers....Those last two denote how much his team mates create goals and not rely on Ronaldo like Barcelona do with Messi this past years. Hell a Ronaldo-less second United team that whooped nearly a full strength Arsenal 4-0 at Old Trafford in the FA Cup.

                    Take Adebayor and Fabregas away and Arsenal can barely score goals.

                    Originally posted by futbol>>>IRAN View Post
                    you and the rest of england?!! Oh ye' like english know alot about football
                    thats why all their major teams are managed by foreigners and dominated by foreign players including the national team.
                    The premier league is in fact not very competitive at all , the same 4 finish the top four every season and that is mostly due to the ridiculous amounts of money poured into the clubs and the 'foreign' influence in both management and players.
                    so please dont go crediting the english about football because when it comes down to it they are useless!
                    Wow dont talk about money for a side that wants to spend 100 million pounds on Ronaldo and has already spent a billion on making 'galacticos'. You know what ? Serie A and La Liga did just that the entire from the mid 1980s all the way down to early 2000s. Zidane, Figo, Van Basten, the old Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, Redondo, Crespo, Weah etc... All set Serie A and La Liga alight, and they sure as hell werent 'natives' of Spain or Italy. So to be honest, all those 'foreign players' etc well its about time the Premier League did just that.

                    meanwhile Serie A is now festered with mafia and corruption scandals (no kidding ) and the directors of Spain's usual big two are mad crazy and end up screwing up their own teams allowing smaller sides to come up a notch since most of the best players in Spain end up in the Barca/Real anyway and the remaining ones are stuck in inconsistent teams a-la Valencia
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Suprah View Post

                      Wow dont talk about money for a side that wants to spend 100 million pounds on Ronaldo and has already spent a billion on making 'galacticos'. You know what ? Serie A and La Liga did just that the entire from the mid 1980s all the way down to early 2000s. Zidane, Figo, Van Basten, the old Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, Redondo, Crespo, Weah etc... All set Serie A and La Liga alight, and they sure as hell werent 'natives' of Spain or Italy. So to be honest, all those 'foreign players' etc well its about time the Premier League did just that.

                      meanwhile Serie A is now festered with mafia and corruption scandals (no kidding ) and the directors of Spain's usual big two are mad crazy and end up screwing up their own teams allowing smaller sides to come up a notch since most of the best players in Spain end up in the Barca/Real anyway and the remaining ones are stuck in inconsistent teams a-la Valencia
                      Real Madrid is the most successful club in the world , go look up our achievements. FIFA team of the century biatch.

                      Ye well atleast the Italians and Spanish will be going to Euro this June With their own domestic coaches.

                      And you cant compare La Liga to EPL , La Liga is more balanced teams are much more competitive . The football is more superior both technically and tactically and Ronaldo knows it just go ask him

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by futbol>>>IRAN View Post
                        Real Madrid is the most successful club in the world , go look up our achievements.
                        Ye well atleast the Italians and Spanish will be going to Euro this June With their own domestic coaches.
                        And you cant compare La Liga to EPL , La Liga is more balanced teams are much more competitive . The football is more superior both technically and tactically and Ronaldo knows it just go ask him
                        Again with those History Lessons - well you can thank the millions pumped in Real Madrid by the fascist Franco for almost 40 years when he was Spain's generalissimo dictator - who patronised Real Madrid for giving Spain a 'positive' image despite not really liking football himself - for all that success (and foreigners like Di Stefano, Kopa, Puskas) for that

                        Well Spain hasnt won anything for 40 years (like England) and people already hate Italians for being greasy plus I, and the rest of United fans, dont give a f*** about England anway as we always say United > England anyway

                        Different countries have different styles, and to be honest, now is the time for England to learn from Spain and Italy to do just that Then again, the 1970s and 1980s European football were dominated by English clubs anyway and would have continued had it not been for Liverpool hooligans doing Heysel in 1985 and getting English teams a 6 year ban from all European club competitions
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Suprah View Post
                          Again with those History Lessons - well you can thank the millions pumped in Real Madrid by the fascist Franco for almost 40 years when he was Spain's generalissimo dictator - who patronised Real Madrid for giving Spain a 'positive' image despite not really liking football himself - for all that success (and foreigners like Di Stefano, Kopa, Puskas) for that

                          Well Spain hasnt won anything for 40 years (like England) and people already hate Italians for being greasy plus I, and the rest of United fans, dont give a f*** about England anway as we always say United > England anyway

                          Different countries have different styles, and to be honest, now is the time for England to learn from Spain and Italy to do just that Then again, the 1970s and 1980s European football were dominated by English clubs anyway and would have continued had it not been for Liverpool hooligans doing Heysel in 1985 and getting English teams a 6 year ban from all European club competitions
                          santiago bernabeu transformed real madrid into club of century not franco. btw spain did win 1 euro cup.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by milad View Post
                            santiago bernabeu transformed real madrid into club of century not franco. btw spain did win 1 euro cup.
                            and franco made sure they were financially healthy enough to realise bernabeu's dream and yes spain did win one euro championship,...just like england won 1 world cup thanks to a dodgy goal in the final
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                              #29
                              I just want Ribery
                              and im happy

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                                #30
                                Looks like Nasri has been signed fellas, that is a VERY positive start to the transfer market for Arsenal.

                                I feel we need Defensive Midfielder and a Defender now. Wenger would have another 12-13 million pounds to spend. And if he gets rid of Hleb then that may add an extra 10-15 million to the transfer kitty.

                                Nasri To Complete Arsenal Move Today


                                http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=704302

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