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UCL FINAL: MANCHESTER UNITED v CHELSEA : MATCH DISCUSSION,[All VIDEOS ADDED 1st POST]
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great match, great result, both sides had great chances and failed to convert, be it a shot off the post, a goal line clearance, doesnt matter, end result was 1-1
chelsea fans are gonna continue to downplay Man U's play to justify to themselves y they lost and CR7 haters are gonna downplay his play and focus on him missing that penalty because they hate to see "that fag" win another one
regardless, very very exciting match, i hated it to go to PKs because i hate PKs and i told the manager at work that i had to go let the furniture guys into my apartment and they only gave me a time window 1-4 so i didnt kno when i would be back
in the end, Man U are the champs!!!
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Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post-clearances off the line are attributed to good performance of the opponents defender - terry deserves to be applauded for positioning himself so well and reacting so fast to that ball and giggs deserves to be castrated for missing such an opportunity. this is no luck, this is a direct result of players of the 2 teams!
-"lucky" deflections are poor clearances, positioning, covering by ur defenders and ur GK not being able to make a better exit/dive/save. - if ur defenders cant mark lampard or arent as quick and smart to mark him to clear a deflection and leave him hanging around loose near ur penalty area, its not luck - its lampards brilliance and instinct to be able to convert from manchester uniteds defense mistakes. that "lucky" deflection as u call it was a deflection for both teams, but how come lampard was able to grab it but not any of man utds defenders or GK??? AGAIN, NO LUCK INVOLVED! INFACT, LAMPARD SCORED WILE GIGGS DIDNT - THIS IS NOT LUCK BUT PLAYERS ROLE!
-missed chances infront of the goal are lack of concentration of ur players. -ITS NOT LUCK, GIGGS CANT SCORE, ITS NOT LUCK TERRY CAN CLEAR THE BALL OFF THE LINE!
all these u mentioned directly involve players whose role can change the situation!
but wat are cross bars and post shots attributed to except luck?
If it was bad luck, then Chelsea had it coming having been through a CL campaign where they faced such mighty sides as Schalke and Rosenborg and this season's over acheivers Fenerbahche (like Monaco of 2003/04), before finally getting tested against Liverpool in the semis - and a LUCKY own goal by Riise just to put emphasis on luck. While United had to deal with Roma 4 times, Lyon and Barcelona to reach the final.
Also, Chelsea were riding their share of luck this season - cant believe how THAT was a penalty on some dodgy handball call on Carrick at Stamford Bridge when Ballack stepped up and scored the winner against us to slash the gap. Yes poor luck meant that hitting the wood twice costed them goals, but were Chelsea the better side throughout for 120 minutes ? No. It was a game of two halves. United should have been 3-0 up before a pin-ball machine deflections and a slip from Van Der Sar allowed Lampard to get a goal. Same with Chelsea, Drogba's ambitious shot could have made the difference, and Lampard's shot could have also, and Terry's miss in the penalties could have won the Cup for them.
But sooner or later your luck runs out.
Tough luck, we faced the same damn bad luck in 2005 FA Cup final against Arsenal where we hit the wood god knows how many times for 120 minutes - and Arsenal's first shot on target was a lame freekick straight at Roy Carroll by Van Persie in 2nd half of extra time, only to finally lose in penalties via just a missed kick by Scholes.
Shit happens, otherwise there is no fun or unpredictibility or lessons learned in life.sigpic
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Originally posted by Suprah View PostStill bitter about 1999 huh ?
If it was bad luck, then Chelsea had it coming having been through a CL campaign where they faced such mighty sides as Schalke and Rosenborg and this season's over acheivers Fenerbahche (like Monaco of 2003/04), before finally getting tested against Liverpool in the semis - and a LUCKY own goal by Riise just to put emphasis on luck. While United had to deal with Roma 4 times, Lyon and Barcelona to reach the final.
Also, Chelsea were riding their share of luck this season - cant believe how THAT was a penalty on some dodgy handball call on Carrick at Stamford Bridge when Ballack stepped up and scored the winner against us to slash the gap. Yes poor luck meant that hitting the wood twice costed them goals, but were Chelsea the better side throughout for 120 minutes ? No. It was a game of two halves. United should have been 3-0 up before a pin-ball machine deflections and a slip from Van Der Sar allowed Lampard to get a goal. Same with Chelsea, Drogba's ambitious shot could have made the difference, and Lampard's shot could have also, and Terry's miss in the penalties could have won the Cup for them.
But sooner or later your luck runs out.
Tough luck, we faced the same damn bad luck in 2005 FA Cup final against Arsenal where we hit the wood god knows how many times for 120 minutes - and Arsenal's first shot on target was a lame freekick straight at Roy Carroll by Van Persie in 2nd half of extra time, only to finally lose in penalties via just a missed kick by Scholes.
Shit happens, otherwise there is no fun or unpredictibility or lessons learned in life.
all i want is man utd fans give credit where its due and not claim chelsea's goal was fluky and accept the fact that this game, luck was on man utd side but credit to man utd for making use of it. afterall, fortune favours the brave
and yea, the 1999 final, again that game, the opponent(WE) hit ur post twice but in the end and we were the better side, but u guys won! so yessss..im still pissed and will always be!!!
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Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Postagreed, who said i disagree?? (except for the carrick handball penalty which i think was a correct decision)
all i want is man utd fans give credit where its due and not claim chelsea's goal was fluky and accept the fact that this game, luck was on man utd side but credit to man utd for making use of it. afterall, fortune favours the brave
and yea, the 1999 final, again that game, the opponent(WE) hit ur post twice but in the end and we were the better side, but u guys won! so yessss..im still pissed and will always be!!!
I feel sorry, and feel giggly , for Ballack though, he has become "Mr Runners Up" way too much (Bayer in 2002, Germany in WC2002, Chelsea in 2007 and 2008)sigpic
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Most painful football experience of my life after Iran - Ireland. Such a shame for Terry, I really feel for him. He gave it his everything this season and he's been fantastic and it's such a shame for him to miss a penalty because of a slip.
To those who say ManU had a better game, it was a very even game, if anything, Chelsea had way more chances (shots on goal, free kicks, crossbar). But in the end it had to be Penalties and basically a coinflip.
Oh well, if anything good comes out of this, hopefully Grant will be replaced. He should've brought Sheva on for Drogba in extra time, he was invisible from the second half onwards apart from the shot that hit the post. And Kalou should've started instead of Malouda.
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