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    Dual thread: Constant criticism on spain and portugals defense/ If you were Aragones

    i want to ask your opinions on both of these but didnt think it was worth opening two threads, especially with all the euro threads we already have.

    Part A: All throughout portugals games and spains game, along with the postgame and pregame talk, all everyone talks about is how great the teams are on offense but how they have defensive liabilities. Combined they probably have mentioned this in some way at least 100 times...OK, we get it, spain and portugal are weak on defense. But who has a strong defense? Who are the best defensive squads in the world that spain and portugal should hope to be if they want to have a chance in winning? Italy? They got destroyed by holland. Yes their main centerback is gone but still, best goalie in the world, best defensive midfielder in the world, and materazzi is still "world class."
    http://www.point-spreads.com/soccer/...therlands.html

    even after cannavaros injury:
    Goalie Gianluigi Buffon is immovable between the posts and Marco Materazzi should start alongside Andrea Barzagli as part of their solid defense.
    well, how did that work out?

    Who else? Czech republic maybe? The conceded a ton of chances to switzerland as well as conceding 3 goals to portugal.
    http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/Euro...ws_258320.html

    We are strong defensively, play well as a unit and are clever tactically, so it has the makings of a very close game."
    well, how did that work out?

    How about Germany?
    http://footylatest.com/news/news.php?extend.788

    they will struggle to get past the organized German defence,
    once again, how did that work out?

    BOTTOM LINE:

    STFU about portugals and spains defense. They are fine. Even though i am praying for an early exit for portugal so scolari learns his lesson after playing quaresma 10 minutes out of a possible 180 (If he played in place of simao like he should have, at the rate he is scoring he would have had approximately 18 goals by now. SOB.) And also so the world can see what a bum c ronaldo really is. But i swear if i hear from that ***** julie foudy say that spain and portugal "are a little soft in the middle, and that could cause problems in the later rounds", ill slap her. Your thoughts.


    Part B:
    Lets assume that holland ties france and SQUEAKS by romania in the last game. Now lets assume that Italy after that embarassment absolutely destroys both romania and france. This will put holland at 7 points and italy 6, making holland the 1 seed and italy 2. Obviously Spain will demolish sweden, and lets assume greece beats russia. This will put spain at 6 points and greece with 3 points, with them only having to play each other, the winner becoming the 1 seed. If you are the coach of spain, after seeing the way italy and holland are playing, do you try to lose that game to become the 2 seed so you can play the weaker team?

    #2
    well if greece beat russia dont exclude the possibility of us beating spain..they usually have a difficult time with us..but then again...we always have a difficult time with the russians..
    Go Cows!

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      #3
      I notice you failed to mention Hollands defence that has only conceded one goal against the WC winner and WC runner up.

      Van Basten has found a great equilibrium and his defence and forwards link up very well with the midfielders.

      As with Spain i just dont see them choosing to lose a game against anyone.

      Also its seems you are insinuating that Spain would prefer to play Holland over Italy. Do u even watch soccer? Y would anyone prefer to play Holland over Italy or France?

      How is Holland the weaker team?? Isnt that a little arrogant? After all what has Spain done for them to earn this invincibility you think they have??

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        #4
        first things first...this was before the holland france game, and if you take that into account then add holland to italy and portugal; the commentators said on countless occasions that holland "simply does not no how to defend." Well if they dont know how to defend, why did they just concede 1 goal against 2 of the top teams in the world? And a lot was made of frances defense and they just gave up 4. That goes right along with the point i was making.

        secondly when i said "Lets assume that holland ties france and SQUEAKS by romania in the last game. Now lets assume that Italy after that embarassment absolutely destroys both romania and france. ", i was implying that it may have been a fluke win by holland and it would have woken up italy. I mean, holland did do bad in qualifying and friendlies and italy is the world champions, but clearly it didnt work out that way. So the second part is null and void.

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          #5
          Originally posted by babak_australia View Post
          I notice you failed to mention Hollands defence that has only conceded one goal against the WC winner and WC runner up.
          Van Basten has found a great equilibrium and his defence and forwards link up very well with the midfielders.
          As with Spain i just dont see them choosing to lose a game against anyone.
          Also its seems you are insinuating that Spain would prefer to play Holland over Italy. Do u even watch soccer? Y would anyone prefer to play Holland over Italy or France?
          How is Holland the weaker team?? Isnt that a little arrogant? After all what has Spain done for them to earn this invincibility you think they have??
          hollands defense was shaky against france.

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