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    #76
    Originally posted by futbol>>>IRAN View Post
    I don't think u have heard this but Spain is european champions and current world #1
    and Real Madrid is fifa team of the 21st century
    and that's the bottom line cos NIMA said so
    but we're in the 21st century, dont u mean 20th century? lol

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      #77
      Originally posted by mkbf2 View Post
      but we're in the 21st century, dont u mean 20th century? lol
      my bad 20th century.

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        #78
        Originally posted by futbol>>>IRAN View Post
        I don't think u have heard this but Spain is european champions and current world #1

        and Real Madrid is fifa team of the 20th century

        and that's the bottom line cos NIMA said so
        ahannnnnnnnn....now i understand

        sorry people, for all those uncessary posts, my bad!

        P.S. noone denied real madrid is the most prestigious club, just like noone can if there is one team that can embarass real madrid left and right, its their daddy BAYERN MUNICH!
        Originally posted by siavasharian
        ESTEGHLAL:

        بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
        بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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          #79
          loooooololol
          he didn't seem to mind much though, did he. should've joined in

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            #80
            Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
            Real Madrid's DADDY (BAYERN MUNICH) - 3
            Real Madrid - 3
            Barcelona - 3
            Chelsea - 2
            Valencia - 2
            Zenit St Petersburg - 2
            Juventus - 1
            European Champions (Manchester United) - 1
            CSKA Moscow - 1
            Tottenham - 1
            Villareal - 1
            Arsenal - 1
            Spartak Moscow - 1
            Liverpool - 1
            obviously for a HEAVILY BIASED real madrid fan, real madrid players were the best in the tournament and its only a fluke goal to advance agianst them.
            but UEFA critics think differently when they composed the EURO 2008 TEAM OF THE TOURNAMENT..
            so ur right, there is no point for us disccusing this cos clearly, i dont know wat im talking about. sergio ramos best RB of the tournament.. Good luck finding him and ruud in UEFA's team of the tournament, AND NOT MILAD's TEAM OF THE TOURNAMENT
            ROFL! first yashar teaches us that 6=1, now he comes up with the greatest mathematical rule ever! 3>3!!!! THATS RIGHT! 3 is LARGER THAN 3! however only if its bolded and underlined! pythagoras must be rolling in his grave!

            and yea, even if bayern lose to maldive islands 7893274832749382 - 0, it still doesnt change the fact that UR DADDY kicked ur behinds 8-3 (4-1 in bernabau in front of ur own fans) and makaay and salihamidzic made history by scoring against u in the 11th second and made a fool out of roberto carlos!!!
            TOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRR ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYY MAKKAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            bayern players must have eaten lucky charms before that game!

            real madrid is always in history books of football, however, most of the times, on the bad side of it
            even if bayern owned every restaurant in munich, you still wouldnt have as much silverware as us!

            bebin besooz azizam.

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              #81
              Originally posted by milad View Post
              even if bayern owned every restaurant in munich, you still wouldnt have as much silverware as us!

              bebin besooz azizam.

              You know, two of my mates went to Spain last month (mostly Andalusia because of its heritage) but they had a few nights in Madrid so they went to see the Bernabeu.

              Would you believe you can take a picture of yourself with a Champions League and actually HOLD IT HIGH in your hands ??

              My friend showed me that picture (he's a United fan like me) where he held the Champions League trophy in his hands - the guides there insisted its real trophy - and my mind went looking at the lucky bastard with his silly grin holding up a Champions League trophy...and its heavy too
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                #82
                Originally posted by milad View Post
                ROFL! first yashar teaches us that 6=1, now he comes up with the greatest mathematical rule ever! 3>3!!!! THATS RIGHT! 3 is LARGER THAN 3! however only if its bolded and underlined! pythagoras must be rolling in his grave!
                says the guy who disregards UEFA critics & claims real madrid had the most impact in euro because Ruud van nistelory scored 2 goals when the UEFA critics showed otherwise. bravi ruud, bravo. indeed ur the best cos u scored 2 goals in euro!

                and sergio ramos was the best RB in the tournament and milad as a NEUTRAL OBSERVER (not a real madrid fan) totally disagrees with UEFA critics!

                coming from a guy who thinks no team had a higher impact than real madrid in the euro tournament, and when statistically proven wrong, now he thinks im the one who says 3>3 and talks about pythagoras rolling in his grave

                Originally posted by milad View Post
                bayern players must have eaten lucky charms before that game!
                sure, nice way to justify ur embarassments. one just wonders, how come every time real madrid's daddy embarasses real madrid, have they eaten lucky charms?
                afterall, statistics show in head to head clashes, BAYERN EATS REAL MADRID ALIVE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE BERNABAU!

                Originally posted by milad View Post
                even if bayern owned every restaurant in munich, you still wouldnt have as much silverware as us!
                u dont need silverware to emarass a team 8-3 and make history by scoring in the 11th second like REAL MADRID's DADDY PROVED TO REAL SOORAKH MADRID

                Originally posted by milad View Post
                bebin besooz azizam.
                AKKHHH SOOOKHTAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                tell me azizam, which language do u like to be embarassed in??

                TOOOORRRRR ROOOYYY MAKAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!


                HADAF!!! ALLAY YA MAKAAY ODKHOL AL TARIKH!!! NO 1 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!!


                salihamidizic supido makaayyyy!!



                hehe notice, as soon as the referee blows the game, real madrid starts the game with van nistelory, and bayern scores. and 30 seconds later. the referee has to start the game again!


                Once, again, Real Madrid's daddy, BAYERN MUNICH SOORAKHS REAL MADRID AND ILKER "SOORAKH" CASILLAS!!
                (notice how young hargreaves was that time, just 18 )


                AKKHHH SOOOKHTAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                P.S. when did i say 6=1? is this another "sergio ramos was the best RB of the euro" theory of urs??
                Originally posted by siavasharian
                ESTEGHLAL:

                بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                  #83
                  LOL yashar you lost it man. its your emotions getting in the way. you are too angry calm down. no point in arguing with you just bring up random stuff like ruud is the best for scoring 2 goals LOL! take a chill pill man and watch some real madrid games.

                  btw you said only 1 madrid player "did something" at the euros when in reality 6 did. thats why i said you said 6=1.

                  LOL iker soorakh casillas? you are just pissed that GERMANY, a nation that is supposed to have good keepers has SUCKY soorakh keepers these days while saint iker is on top of the world. just for your viewing pleasure here is a YOUNG iker winning the game against another soorakh GERMAN team. also note how zidane literally soorakhed the GERMAN teams goal with a bullet.



                  this will help ease the pain:



                  4-0 OK was it real madrid, was it barcelona, was it chelsea, was it liverpool, was it arsenal, was it even valencia, was it perspolis? NOPE it was saint zenit petersburgh. and that too not even in the champions league which you didnt even QUALIFY FOR! roflcopter 2000 feet in the air.

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                    #84
                    im perfectly fine milad jan im worried about u though!

                    it clear who should take a chill pill and relax when during the discussion and rivalry between bayern munich and real madrid, he brings zenit zt. petersburg in the middle.

                    how is zenit related to real madrid? only he knows...
                    how is the defeat to zenit make any difference to bayern owning real madrid in statistcs?? only he knows....

                    u dont see me bringing up embarassing results of real madrid with other teams do u? oh well,, i guess u have no choice, cos this is a battle of wits and ur just out of amo! so u have no choice but to just shoot in the dark!

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                    btw, 6 real madrid players did something, only according to u a die hard real madrid fan. so yea, to u, i guess 6=1. UEFA critics think only 3 real madrid players were worthy of being mentioned in the Euro team, and out of those, only 1 was spanish!

                    now that i clearly mentioned wat i meant in english, lets see if u can make shakespear roll in his grave this time

                    --------------------

                    im not at all pissed at germany losing. i admit spain was the better team and deserved to win. i just am worried about certain people who have lost touch with reality and like i said, it wont take long before they land on earth again. HOOKOOMATE GHOLAMANE 100 ROOZE is how im gonna describe spain from now on


                    why are u so desperate to show me ilker soorakh and zidane winning against a german team? do i look so desperate to show hundreds of clips from here and there of german teams and players owning spanish sides?? how hard do u think its difficult for me to find such clips??
                    how hard do u think it is for me to find clips on spain getting soorakhed by ANY TEAM!!??
                    like i said, this is a battle of wits and ur out of amo. stop shooting randomly in the dark. stay on topic

                    and yea,,,, keep searching on youtube. im sure u can prove a lot about BAYERN vs REAL MADRID there

                    P.S. Just to avoid any misunderstanding, the "HE" above doesnt refer to Ken Mcelroy
                    Originally posted by siavasharian
                    ESTEGHLAL:

                    بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                    بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
                      im perfectly fine milad jan im worried about u though!

                      it clear who should take a chill pill and relax when during the discussion and rivalry between bayern munich and real madrid, he brings zenit zt. petersburg in the middle.

                      how is zenit related to real madrid? only he knows...
                      how is the defeat to zenit make any difference to bayern owning real madrid in statistcs?? only he knows....

                      u dont see me bringing up embarassing results of real madrid with other teams do u? oh well,, i guess u have no choice, cos this is a battle of wits and ur just out of amo!

                      P.S. 6 real madrid players did something, only according to u a die hard real madrid fan. so yea, to u, i guess 6=1. UEFA critics think only 3 real madrid players were worthy of being mentioned in the Euro team, and out of those, only 1 was spanish!

                      now that i clearly mentioned wat i meant in english, lets see if u can make shakespear roll in his grave this time
                      i named the 6 players and their achievements. if you dont agree they were good then i dont know what to tell you. name 6 players of another club that were at least as good as the madridista 6.

                      you dont have to make the uefa team to be the best.

                      similarly:

                      how to not make the spanish team:



                      (didnt even include the goal against barca and both goals against roma)

                      this is to show how BIASED you were when you said raul didnt get invited to spain "because madrid players suck."

                      i am showing zenit to make a point. how can you compare club of the century to a team that loses to zenit 4-0?

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by milad View Post
                        i named the 6 players and their achievements. if you dont agree they were good then i dont know what to tell you. name 6 players of another club that were at least as good as the madridista 6.
                        you dont have to make the uefa team to be the best.
                        so wat do u have to do to be the best? paly in real madrid or be in milad's good books?

                        its not hard for me to name any 6 players and say I THINK THEY PERFORMED WELL! because u and me can be biased and are not experts.
                        but UEFA critics are very little biased because they make decisions in groups and also they are experts.

                        so im not even gonna start making my own list, because clearly, u will disagree with them and there is no way we will reach a conclusion. but when UEFA has made a decision, i guess there is a way to reach a conclusion, but u wont accept it.

                        Originally posted by milad View Post
                        i am showing zenit to make a point. how can you compare club of the century to a team that loses to zenit 4-0?
                        sorry, but u cant make a point that way.
                        similary, korea tied maldives 0-0 and iran lost to korea. so wat? can i make a point now by including other teams and matches??

                        no, when u compare 2 teams, u compare head to head results. now real madrid can be team of the century, team of the entire football history or team of gooz for all i care. when it comes to statistics, no team has emabarassed real madrid better than bayern munich. bayern has a much better head to head record against real madrid. i even once posted the statistics long time back.

                        now if u dont wanna accept this either, thats ur perogative. but atleast, i didnt use my opinion while arguing.

                        i used UEFA critics opinions and FIFA statistics. while u can disagree with them and call pytaghoras all u want while i can have my chill pills

                        P.S. about that video clip of raul, i can post video clips of any player u dislike and say ur biased because this clip shows he can do wonders! judging a player from a video clip is wat 14 year old iranians do on european forums when their player joins the european team, not me i have aragones - the coach who made his team champions of europe for my support, u have video clips of raul on youtube for ur support. hmmm..tough choice!!
                        Originally posted by siavasharian
                        ESTEGHLAL:

                        بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                        بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
                          so wat do u have to do to be the best? paly in real madrid or be in milad's good books?

                          its not hard for me to name any 6 players and say I THINK THEY PERFORMED WELL! because u and me can be biased and are not experts.
                          but UEFA critics are very little biased because they make decisions in groups and also they are experts.

                          so im not even gonna start making my own list, because clearly, u will disagree with them and there is no way we will reach a conclusion. but when UEFA has made a decision, i guess there is a way to reach a conclusion, but u wont accept it.



                          sorry, but u cant make a point that way.
                          similary, korea tied maldives 0-0 and iran lost to korea. so wat? can i make a point now by including other teams and matches??

                          no, when u compare 2 teams, u compare head to head results. now real madrid can be team of the century, team of the entire football history or team of gooz for all i care. when it comes to statistics, no team has emabarassed real madrid better than bayern munich. bayern has a much better head to head record against real madrid. i even once posted the statistics long time back.

                          now if u dont wanna accept this either, thats ur perogative. but atleast, i didnt use my opinion while arguing.

                          i used UEFA critics opinions and FIFA statistics. while u can disagree with them and call pytaghoras all u want while i can have my chill pills
                          this matches your views on the official FIFA rankings really well.

                          the zenit thing was a joke. take a joke.

                          im not biased. i make my list now make yours. as long as it is realistic it counts. come on 6 players who were impressive and were all from one club. i want to see which club had a bigger impact than real madrid in euro 08.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post
                            P.S. about that video clip of raul, i can post video clips of any player u dislike and say ur biased because this clip shows he can do wonders! judging a player from a video clip is wat 14 year old iranians do on european forums when their player joins the european team, not me i have aragones - the coach who made his team champions of europe for my support, u have video clips of raul on youtube for ur support. hmmm..tough choice!!
                            there goes your bias again. i posted a video of raul and the entire content of the video was based on the 2007-2008 season, which is what national team coaches decide to invite a player into the national team. but its not only the way he plays thats important; its his leadership. aragones won because as you even said yourself, the whole team consisted of stars. so yea i guess it comes down to my opinion vs a national team coach where i say raul>sergio garcia and you and aragones say sergio garcia>raul. i guess we can leave it at that.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by milad View Post
                              this matches your views on the official FIFA rankings really well.
                              FIFA rankings are FLAWED because there is no complete certain unbiased mechanism to compare 200+ world football teams!! it doesnt mean its not official!! everyone knows it is FLAWED NO MATTER HOW OFFICIAL IT IS! best example was that team, wat was it guinea or something ranked 23rd in FIFA!

                              head to head statistcs between real madrid and bayern munich ARE NOT FLAWED and are accurate!

                              do u see a difference or should i call einstein now to roll in his grave?

                              Originally posted by milad View Post
                              the zenit thing was a joke. take a joke.
                              i can very well take a joke and i admit defeat to zenit was embarassing in seriousness as well
                              i just dont see the relevance of zenit defeating bayern to bayern vs real madrid head to head comparison and i pointed it out.

                              first u said u posted the zenit result to make a point.
                              now ur saying it was only a joke because u realized u couldnt make a point by including zenit!

                              learn to accept ur mistakes

                              Originally posted by milad View Post
                              im not biased. i make my list now make yours. as long as it is realistic it counts. come on 6 players who were impressive and were all from one club. i want to see which club had a bigger impact than real madrid in euro 08.
                              dadashe man, how can u say a list is realistic or not? based on wat? how can u say if the colour blue, red, orange, purple, yellow or green is prettier?? how can u say ur making a realistic claim or not when ur choosing a set of players (or colours in this case)??

                              LIKE I SAID, I DONT FIND THE INCLUSION OF SERGIO RAMOS IN THAT LIST REALISITIC BECAUSE I DIDNT FIND HIM ANYWHERE CLOSE TO HIS PERFORMANCE IN REAL MADRID!

                              now i dont think ramos should be included in that list, u do. so wat, is ur list realistic now or not?? should we go by ur opinion or mine? or should we go by UEFAs??

                              real madrid may have had 6 participants (or maybe more? i havent counted) in Euro - THATS A FACT WHICH IS OBJECTIVE AND CANT BE ARGUED AGAINST!
                              but to say all 6 played impressively IS ONLY SUBJECTIVE AND CAN BE ARGUED IN A MILLION AND ONE WAYS!!

                              So wats the best way to decide this?? by using EXPERTS AND UNBIASED CRITICS OPINIONS, NOT OUR OWN!!

                              if u reallllllyyyyyyy want to know my list, u can check my Euro team of the tournament in the other thread.
                              Originally posted by siavasharian
                              ESTEGHLAL:

                              بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                              بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by milad View Post
                                there goes your bias again. i posted a video of raul and the entire content of the video was based on the 2007-2008 season, which is what national team coaches decide to invite a player into the national team. but its not only the way he plays thats important; its his leadership. aragones won because as you even said yourself, the whole team consisted of stars. so yea i guess it comes down to my opinion vs a national team coach where i say raul>sergio garcia and you and aragones say sergio garcia>raul. i guess we can leave it at that.
                                so that makes me biased right? because i disagree with u and agree with aragones??

                                and u think aragones didnt realize that raul has leadership qualities?? and aragones doesnt know how to invite players and based on wat to invite players??

                                spain won not because it consisted of stars, thats wrong. spain won because they were the best team and played the best football.
                                simply have a lot of stars is not enough! having a lot of stars only helps in becoming a better team and easier to win a tournament!
                                didnt italy, holland, france and germany have a lot of stars as well? wat happened to them?
                                how many stars did russia have??

                                when aragones won the tournament, he proved he knew wat he was doing. it proved he chose the right players and the right tactics. it proved he studied the opponents well and knew how to deal with them.
                                neither i nor aragones need to judge a player by his youtube video clip.
                                aragones knows wat to look for and wat not to look for when deciding to invite raul or not. and dont worry, we both know raul brings experience and leadership to the team as well. but when aragones still decides to leave him out, then that must say something!
                                Originally posted by siavasharian
                                ESTEGHLAL:

                                بهترین خط دفاع.بهترین خط حمله.ثبت رکورد بیشترین گل زده.پر امتیاز ترین تیم ادوار لیگ برتر با ۴۰۹ امتیاز.پر افتخار ترین مربی لیگ برتر با دو قهرمانی
                                بهترین گلزن لیگ: آرش برهانی [استقلال] با ۲۱ گل زدهبهترین خط حمله: استقلال تهران با ۷۰ گل زده

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