Iranian swimmer shuns Israeli rival

[Hadi]

fvcking bullshit...if we want to own israel why not compete and beat them

because that way we have a chance to lose

[Hadi]

btw, to all of you who don't know the reason why Iranian athletes have been doing this:

Its not a cowardly act or not wanting to compete. Its a purely political move. Since Iran does not recognize a country named Israel, they say they will not compete against a country which doesn't exist. Its nothing personal.

Its stupid, but just wanted to explain the Akhoondism logic behind this.

[persianbruin]

You guys are all on crack!! He didn't have a choice!! He HAD to do it like any other Iranian athlete.

[Hadi]

duh

[persianbruin]

duh

Yeah it seems like its very clear but read the first handful of comments to the thread. I was shocked!!!

[shayan20]

poor guy. it's not his fault. It's an order from the above powers.

[KC McElroy]

Perhaps he should have withdrawn from the team if he was opposed to this move and let someone who actually agreed with this course of action do this. Unless of course he was in favor of this move.

[milad]

Perhaps he should have withdrawn from the team if he was opposed to this move and let someone who actually agreed with this course of action do this. Unless of course he was in favor of this move.

:bs:

[javidan]

Stupid, if they want to kick their ass then win over them. You just made him happy when you didn't participate. Wow..

[ramingeles2000]

isn't this a unspoken requirement for any iranian athlete?

[1Heesham1]

Stupid, if they want to kick their ass then win over them. You just made him happy when you didn't participate. Wow..

maast o khiar jan please read through the thread and learn something.

btw, to all of you who don't know the reason why Iranian athletes have been doing this:

Its not a cowardly act or not wanting to compete. Its a purely political move. Since Iran does not recognize a country named Israel, they say they will not compete against a country which doesn't exist. Its nothing personal.

Its stupid, but just wanted to explain the Akhoondism logic behind this.

[javidan]

maast o khiar jan please read through the thread and learn something.

Khatami, in January 2004, he spoke to an Israeli reporter who asked him on what grounds Iran would recognize Israel. This was believed to be the first time he had spoken publicly with an Israeli.[11]

here

How come he speaks to someone who doesn't "exist"?

This was asserted, in particular, by a former Israeli intelligence agent, Ari Ben-Menash, a Jew born in Iran and arrested in 1989 in the U.S. for supplying arms to Iran (arrested in California on charges of exporting contraband C-130 aircraft from the U.S. to Iran and who was in prison for 11 months and then freed). According to his calculation, the total value of the arms illegally delivered to Iran reached 82 billion dollars.

here

How come they accept arms from someone who doesn't "exist"?
here

How come someone who doesn't ''exist'' gets our oil?

* Project "Flower" Tzur, a joint collaboration between Iran and Israel, aimed to develop a "state-of-the-art sea-to-sea missile, an advanced version of the U.S. Harpoon missile, with a range of 200 kilometers." (See: Ronen Bergman, "5 billion Reasons to Talk to Iran," Haaretz (Tel Aviv), 19 March 1999; in "Israel's Outstanding Debt to Iran Viewed," FBIS Document FTS19990319001273, 19 March 1999.
* Israeli Defense Minister General Ezer Weizmann and Iranian Vice Minister of War General Hasan Toufanian discussed the co-production of Israel's Jericho-2 missile, code named Project Flower. (See: "Minutes from Meeting Held in Tel Aviv between H. E. General M. Dayan, Foreign Minister of Israel, and H.E. General H. Toufanian, Vice Minister of War, Imperial Government of Iran," Top Secret Minutes from Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 18 July 1977, in Digital National Security Archive)

How can someone who doesn't "exist" do deals with us?

And I am going to stop there, "maast khiar" jan. I could write a paper on this for you.

[1Heesham1]

^ do you know nothing about the state of Iran today?!

offcially they dont recognize israel as a state - occipied palestine, thats why the athelete did not participate. Its really simple.


btw the project flower was pre 79 by the shahanshahi goverment with israel who had an embassy in tehran - formal relations and therefore recognition. IRI has no relations and the former israeli embassy was given to the palestinians.


its all good reading things but understanding it is another.

[javidan]

^ do you know nothing about the state of Iran today?!
offcially they dont recognize israel as a state - occipied palestine, thats why the athelete did not participate. Its really simple.
btw the project flower was pre 79 by the shahanshahi goverment with israel who had an embassy in tehran - formal relations and therefore recognition. IRI has no relations and the former israeli embassy was given to the palestinians.
its all good reading things but understanding it is another.

By not responding at all it would be much better for you because what you said is just so funny.

Here is another one, please.. If you can debate in a nice, intelligent way then don't.

The Observer also estimated that Israel's arms sales to Iran during the war totalled US$ 500 million annually [16], and Time Magazine reported that throughout 1981 and 1982, "the Israelis reportedly set up Swiss bank accounts to handle the financial end of the deals." [17] [14]

[1Heesham1]

^Read very carefully:
IRI does not recognize Israel officially. That is the sole reason why this athlete did not participate in the competition. Simple.

what you're saying is that these dealings show otherwise, but that only shows that they're hypocritical in what they say. What is your point?