Haddadi will have a salary of $1.5 million dollars this season

[Makan]

Most rookies make 200,000 to 400,000 dollars starting out in the league. That is probably why some are saying that that is too much money for him. Think about it, he played on a losing team during the Olympics (everyone knows that you don't have to be a great player to put up good stats on a bad team), and he had a little bit of experience against some summer league teams with far inferior talent.

1,500,000 is rather desperate, but maybe the Grizzlies see something in him that no one else does.

[Babak]

Most rookies make 200,000 to 400,000 dollars starting out in the league. That is probably why some are saying that that is too much money for him. Think about it, he played on a losing team during the Olympics (everyone knows that you don't have to be a great player to put up good stats on a bad team), and he had a little bit of experience against some summer league teams with far inferior talent.
1,500,000 is rather desperate, but maybe the Grizzlies see something in him that no one else does.

Some of you guys really like to talk out of your ass without having a clue. Most rookies make 200,000-400,000?

Go read up on your NBA knowledge a bit before you come and spread some BS nonsense around here. If I come across as an a-hole, I apologize. But there's nothing I hate more than people who just like to give opinions for the sake of hearing themselves talk, when they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

FYI, the average NBA rookie makes more than $1,000,000 per year.

[Karimi 8]

he better not get ****y with all the money he is making and his game gets weaker. i hope for the best for this guy.

[Makan]

Some of you guys really like to talk out of your ass without having a clue. Most rookies make 200,000-400,000?
Go read up on your NBA knowledge a bit before you come and spread some BS nonsense around here. If I come across as an a-hole, I apologize. But there's nothing I hate more than people who just like to give opinions for the sake of hearing themselves talk, when they don't have a clue what they're talking about.
FYI, the average NBA rookie makes more than $1,000,000 per year.

Ah dear, I do apologize for the misinformation. Unfortunately I spoke completely out of context and did not proofread what I wrote.

Allow me to correct myself, and do so without being a complete jerk-off!

A first round, first pick rookie will usually get around 4,000,000 dollars.

Now let us look at how much Haddadi got, 1,500,000.

In the first round, the 13th pick will get around that much money.

Allow me to offer a link to back up my statements: http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-rookie...scale-2008/101

Haddadi is considered an undrafted rookie, and he is getting paid 1,500,000. Now do you understand where I am coming from? What I said above was completely wrong, and I have already apologized for the misinformation, but I will do so again just to clear up any confusion.

Now, there are a couple of other (admittedly irrelevant) points that I must cover.

Firstly, please do not insult my Basketball knowledge, as I would be willing to estimate that I am far more knowledgeable about basketball than you are.

Secondly, "If i come across as an a-hole, I apologize."? Seriously? You're seriously going to say that? What a sincere and apologetic statement! Now all of the complete asshole things you said above are forgiven because of this genuine and most sincere apology that you have offered to me. So much for your Iranian hospitality. I make a mistake, and instead of pointing it out to me in a polite way, you begin to flame me and insult my knowledge.

[Behzad12]

Some of you guys really like to talk out of your ass without having a clue. Most rookies make 200,000-400,000?
Go read up on your NBA knowledge a bit before you come and spread some BS nonsense around here. If I come across as an a-hole, I apologize. But there's nothing I hate more than people who just like to give opinions for the sake of hearing themselves talk, when they don't have a clue what they're talking about.
FYI, the average NBA rookie makes more than $1,000,000 per year.

dadash you are wrong and learn to talk with respect. makan posted all the proof needed, and FYI a non-drafted player USUALLY doesn't get signed by that much, especially when he comes from iran (yes a country not known for basketball). so lets look at it this way, Roko Ukic came over to the raptors this year and he will make 1.2 million. i consider Ukic a much better player than haddadi and much more experience. the list can go on and on about how much a rookie makes in the NBA and in terms of skill, how much better they are (proven at least) than haddadi.

EDIT: heres a list of some notable players that make less than haddadi and can be considered as solid players. dont think im just listing every player i find either, these guys can all be considered as solid players and in my opinion, more proven players than haddadi. plus they are all young and in their 1st contract as well, so its easy to compare.

- rajon rondo
- Thabo Sefolosha
- Marco Belinelli
- Marcus Williams
- Jordan farmar
- kyle lowry
- Josh boone
- Matt barnes
-nicolas batum ( a rook as well but with much greater upside)
- rudy fernandez
- Ime Udoka
- Jamario Moon
- Roko Ukic (rook as well, but still more proven than haddadi)

[Darvish11]

i was expecting the minimum for him, this is over 3x that, good for him. That much is very unusual for an undrafted free agent, BUT this case is a little different, hadadi did sort of prove himself in the olympics. If you still think its not that much consider hes ONLY making a million less than rudy gay, a 20 ppg scorer

lol poor grizzlies jaric, buckner and walker combined make like half the teams payroll and they might see 10 mins per game combined

they are still under the cap though.

[Babak]

Ah dear, I do apologize for the misinformation. Unfortunately I spoke completely out of context and did not proofread what I wrote.
Allow me to correct myself, and do so without being a complete jerk-off!
A first round, first pick rookie will usually get around 4,000,000 dollars.
Now let us look at how much Haddadi got, 1,500,000.
In the first round, the 13th pick will get around that much money.
Allow me to offer a link to back up my statements: http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-rookie...scale-2008/101
Haddadi is considered an undrafted rookie, and he is getting paid 1,500,000. Now do you understand where I am coming from? What I said above was completely wrong, and I have already apologized for the misinformation, but I will do so again just to clear up any confusion.
Now, there are a couple of other (admittedly irrelevant) points that I must cover.
Firstly, please do not insult my Basketball knowledge, as I would be willing to estimate that I am far more knowledgeable about basketball than you are.
Secondly, "If i come across as an a-hole, I apologize."? Seriously? You're seriously going to say that? What a sincere and apologetic statement! Now all of the complete asshole things you said above are forgiven because of this genuine and most sincere apology that you have offered to me. So much for your Iranian hospitality. I make a mistake, and instead of pointing it out to me in a polite way, you begin to flame me and insult my knowledge.

Thanks for the clarification. Sorry if I came across in a harsh tone, but if you had to read the continuous and eternal posts filled with inaccurate nonsense from people here who are simply posting for the sake of seeing their own name on the computer screen, you might understand where my frustration comes from. I'm very sensitive to people asserting something as fact when they're just simply wrong and misleading other people.

Now as you point out, the NBA in fact has a pre-determined rookie scale for its 1st round draft picks. 2nd round draft picks generally do not have guaranteed contracts like the 1st rounders do. However, you still haven't explained where this figure of $200,000-400,000 average salary for rookies came from? Someone who claims to be this knowledgable about the NBA wouldn't throw out an arbitrary number like that, especially when its far from accurate.

As far as being surprised that an undrafted 7'2 international big man is getting 1.5 million, I think you are being very unreasonable and quickly jumping to conclusions. I'll give you a quick example off the top of my head: Arvydas Sabonis, former Portland center, a very solid above average NBA center making a handsome yearly salary.

Also, if I may ask, where does your estimate of being "far more knowledgable" about basketball than me come from, and what do you base that on? I follow and study the intricacies of the league on a daily basis.

[Babak]

dadash you are wrong and learn to talk with respect. makan posted all the proof needed, and FYI a non-drafted player USUALLY doesn't get signed by that much, especially when he comes from iran (yes a country not known for basketball). so lets look at it this way, Roko Ukic came over to the raptors this year and he will make 1.2 million. i consider Ukic a much better player than haddadi and much more experience. the list can go on and on about how much a rookie makes in the NBA and in terms of skill, how much better they are (proven at least) than haddadi.

EDIT: heres a list of some notable players that make less than haddadi and can be considered as solid players. dont think im just listing every player i find either, these guys can all be considered as solid players and in my opinion, more proven players than haddadi. plus they are all young and in their 1st contract as well, so its easy to compare.

- rajon rondo
- Thabo Sefolosha
- Marco Belinelli
- Marcus Williams
- Jordan farmar
- kyle lowry
- Josh boone
- Matt barnes
-nicolas batum ( a rook as well but with much greater upside)
- rudy fernandez
- Ime Udoka
- Jamario Moon
- Roko Ukic (rook as well, but still more proven than haddadi)

The reason these guys make less than Hadadi is very simple: most of the players you mention are still under their original NBA contract which is based on a fixed pay-scale with incremental increases.

Also, I would not put Matt Barnes on that list. Trust me, as a UCLA alumni and huge Warriors fan, I've been watching Matt Barnes play since his college days. He's lucky he has a job in the NBA at the moment.

[Darvish11]

lol look at how badbakht the grizzlies are compared to other teams

Team Roster
NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT COLLEGE 2008 - 2009 SALARY
0 Darrell Arthur PF 20 6-9 225 Kansas $977,160
7 Greg Buckner SG 31 6-4 210 Clemson $4,010,005
11 Mike Conley PG 20 6-1 180 Ohio State $3,630,480
3 Javaris Crittenton PG 20 6-5 198 Georgia Tech $1,381,560
33 Marc Gasol C 23 7-0 280 $3,093,333
22 Rudy Gay SF 22 6-9 220 Connecticut $2,579,400
0 Hamed Haddadi C 23 7-2 254 $1,572,221
55 Marko Jaric PG 29 6-7 224 $6,575,000
1 Kyle Lowry PG 22 6-0 175 Villanova $1,163,520
32 O.J. Mayo SG 20 6-5 200 USC $3,875,040
31 Darko Milicic C 23 7-0 275 $7,020,000
24 Antoine Walker PF 32 6-9 245 Kentucky $9,052,460
21 Hakim Warrick PF 26 6-9 219 Syracuse $2,119,102


lakers:

3 Trevor Ariza SF 23 6-8 210 UCLA $3,100,000
24 Kobe Bryant SG 30 6-6 220 $21,262,500
17 Andrew Bynum C 20 7-0 275 $2,769,300
12 Joe Crawford SG 22 6-5 207 Kentucky $442,114
5 Jordan Farmar PG 21 6-2 180 UCLA $1,080,000
2 Derek Fisher PG 34 6-1 205 Arkansas-Little Rock $4,700,000
16 Pau Gasol PF 28 7-0 260 $15,106,000
11 Coby Karl SG 25 6-5 204 Boise State $711,517
28 DJ Mbenga C 27 7-0 255
31 Chris Mihm C 29 7-0 265 Texas $2,500,000
23 Dwayne Mitchell SG 26 6-5 210 $442,114
7 Lamar Odom PF 28 6-10 230 Rhode Island $14,148,596
21 Josh Powell PF 25 6-9 225 North Carolina State $854,957
10 Vladimir Radmanovic PF 27 6-10 234 $6,049,400
18 Sasha Vujacic SG 24 6-7 195 $4,524,887
4 Luke Walton SF 28 6-8 232 Arizona $4,420,000
12 Sun Yue F 22 6-7 205 $442,114


boston:

20 Ray Allen SG 33 6-5 205 Connecticut $18,388,430
42 Tony Allen SG 26 6-4 213 Oklahoma State $2,500,000
93 P.J. Brown FC 38 6-11 239 Louisiana Tech
28 Sam Cassell PG 38 6-3 185 Florida State
11 Glen Davis C 22 6-9 289 LSU $711,517
10 Semih Erden C 22 6-11 240
5 Kevin Garnett PF 32 6-11 253 $24,751,934
4 J.R. Giddens SG 23 6-5 215 New Mexico $957,120
50 Eddie House PG 30 6-1 175 Arizona State $2,650,000
23 Darius Miles SF 26 6-9 222 $797,581
26 Patrick O'Bryant C 22 7-0 249 Bradley $797,581
43 Kendrick Perkins C 23 6-10 280 $4,078,880
34 Paul Pierce SF 30 6-6 230 Kansas $18,077,903
66 Scot Pollard C 33 6-11 265 Kansas
0 Leon Powe PF 24 6-8 240 California $797,581
13 Gabe Pruitt PG 22 6-4 170 USC $711,517
9 Rajon Rondo PG 22 6-1 171 Kentucky $1,315,080
44 Brian Scalabrine PF 30 6-9 235 USC $3,206,897
12 Bill Walker SG 20 6-6 220 Kansas State $542,114


20 Louis Amundson PF 25 6-9 225 UNLV $797,581
10 Leandro Barbosa SG 25 6-3 202 $6,100,000
22 Matt Barnes PF 28 6-7 235 UCLA $797,581
19 Raja Bell SG 31 6-5 215 Florida International $5,000,000
3 Boris Diaw PF 26 6-8 235 $9,000,000
11 Goran Dragic PG 22 6-4 180
33 Grant Hill SF 35 6-8 225 Duke $1,976,400
44 Linton Johnson SF 28 6-8 205 Tulane
15 Robin Lopez C 20 7-0 255 Stanford $1,623,720
13 Steve Nash PG 34 6-3 178 Santa Clara $12,250,000
32 Shaquille O'Neal C 36 7-1 325 LSU $21,000,000
52 Eric Piatkowski SF 37 6-7 215 Nebraska
7 Sean Singletary PG 23 6-0 185 Virginia $442,114
1 Amare Stoudemire C 25 6-10 245 $15,070,550
29 Alando Tucker SF 24 6-6 205 Wisconsin $1,001,880

mavericks:

11 Jose Juan Barea PG 24 6-0 175 Northeastern $1,500,000
32 Brandon Bass PF 23 6-8 240 LSU $826,269
25 Erick Dampier C 33 6-11 265 Mississippi State $11,553,000
14 DeSagana Diop C 26 7-0 280 $5,585,000
33 Shan Foster SG 22 6-6 205 Vanderbilt
40 Devean George SF 31 6-8 235 Augsburg $1,600,000
24 Gerald Green SF 22 6-8 200 $797,581
5 Josh Howard SF 28 6-7 210 Wake Forest $9,945,000
6 Eddie Jones SG 36 6-6 200 Temple $1,976,400
2 Jason Kidd PG 35 6-4 210 California $21,372,000
20 Keith McLeod PG 28 6-2 190 Bowling Green $797,581
41 Dirk Nowitzki PF 30 7-0 245 $18,077,904
15 James Singleton F 27 6-8 215 Murray State $797,581
42 Jerry Stackhouse SG 33 6-6 218 North Carolina $7,000,000
31 Jason Terry PG 30 6-2 180 Arizona $9,196,000
21 Antoine Wright SG 24 6-7 215 Texas A&M $1,800,000


nuggets:

11 Chris Andersen FC 30 6-10 228 $797,581
15 Carmelo Anthony SF 24 6-8 230 Syracuse $14,410,581
12 Chucky Atkins PG 34 5-11 185 South Florida $3,240,000
32 Renaldo Balkman SF 24 6-8 208 South Carolina $1,369,920
25 Anthony Carter PG 33 6-2 195 Hawaii $797,581
45 Steven Hunter C 26 7-0 240 DePaul $3,862,600
3 Allen Iverson SG 33 6-0 165 Georgetown $20,840,625
7 Dahntay Jones SG 27 6-6 210 Duke $797,581
43 Linas Kleiza SF 23 6-8 245 Missouri $1,824,493
4 Kenyon Martin PF 30 6-9 240 Cincinnati $14,431,816
1 J.R. Smith SG 22 6-6 220 $4,985,001
13 Sonny Weems C 22 6-6 203 Arkansas
31 Nene PF 25 6-11 268 $9,680,000
(and they just got rid of camby lol)

WOW.

[Farhad-7]

good for him and let's hope he does well!

[milad]

why does shaq get so much?

[persianbruin]

why does shaq get so much?

because the heat were idiots!!

[Makan]

Thanks for the clarification. Sorry if I came across in a harsh tone, but if you had to read the continuous and eternal posts filled with inaccurate nonsense from people here who are simply posting for the sake of seeing their own name on the computer screen, you might understand where my frustration comes from. I'm very sensitive to people asserting something as fact when they're just simply wrong and misleading other people.
Now as you point out, the NBA in fact has a pre-determined rookie scale for its 1st round draft picks. 2nd round draft picks generally do not have guaranteed contracts like the 1st rounders do. However, you still haven't explained where this figure of $200,000-400,000 average salary for rookies came from? Someone who claims to be this knowledgable about the NBA wouldn't throw out an arbitrary number like that, especially when its far from accurate.
As far as being surprised that an undrafted 7'2 international big man is getting 1.5 million, I think you are being very unreasonable and quickly jumping to conclusions. I'll give you a quick example off the top of my head: Arvydas Sabonis, former Portland center, a very solid above average NBA center making a handsome yearly salary.
Also, if I may ask, where does your estimate of being "far more knowledgable" about basketball than me come from, and what do you base that on? I follow and study the intricacies of the league on a daily basis.

Low second round and undrafted picks usually do not make much more than 400,000 dollars, that is where that number came from. I made the accident of including all first rounders and high first rounders with my statement, and that is why it sounded like such an erroneous statement (because it was).

1.5 million dollars for an overseas bigman is definitely not that much, but Haddadi is undrafted, has very little experience with top-notch talent, and has only dominated in the Olympics on a team with very very little star power. It was only natural that he would get the most rebounds and the most blocks and the most points because he was the only player on the team worth a damn. Of course his teammates would pass to him, and of course he'd be the only player tall enough and strong enough matched up against opponents to get blocks or rebounds.

So when I say that Haddadi is being overpaid, this is jumping to a conclusion? He has little experience with NBA level talent, he was undrafted, and there are two other Center options for Memphis to play: Milicic and M. Gasol. I'm not saying those two guys are better than Haddadi, I'm just saying Haddadi has done little to prove he's better than THEM.

I am just simply pointing out that Memphis is not making a smart move. The only other team interested in him (to my knowledge) were the Houston Rockets, and he wasn't going to sign with them because he would just be riding the bench behind Yao and Mutombo. The Griz were probably going to get him regardless. For a team that is trying to SAVE money in order to buy out more expensive FAs, it isn't hard to believe that they overpaid for Haddadi.

As for saying I have more knowledge on basketball than you do, I was simply put on the defensive from your prior statement. I do not know which of us is more knowledgeable, that was simply me defending myself due to your unreasonably harsh response. I am a new poster here, and it isn't fun when the first time somebody responds to your post is about how you're "talking out of your ass" and "wanting to hear yourself talk".

[Babak]

Low second round and undrafted picks usually do not make much more than 400,000 dollars, that is where that number came from. I made the accident of including all first rounders and high first rounders with my statement, and that is why it sounded like such an erroneous statement (because it was).
1.5 million dollars for an overseas bigman is definitely not that much, but Haddadi is undrafted, has very little experience with top-notch talent, and has only dominated in the Olympics on a team with very very little star power. It was only natural that he would get the most rebounds and the most blocks and the most points because he was the only player on the team worth a damn. Of course his teammates would pass to him, and of course he'd be the only player tall enough and strong enough matched up against opponents to get blocks or rebounds.
So when I say that Haddadi is being overpaid, this is jumping to a conclusion? He has little experience with NBA level talent, he was undrafted, and there are two other Center options for Memphis to play: Milicic and M. Gasol. I'm not saying those two guys are better than Haddadi, I'm just saying Haddadi has done little to prove he's better than THEM.
I am just simply pointing out that Memphis is not making a smart move. The only other team interested in him (to my knowledge) were the Houston Rockets, and he wasn't going to sign with them because he would just be riding the bench behind Yao and Mutombo. The Griz were probably going to get him regardless. For a team that is trying to SAVE money in order to buy out more expensive FAs, it isn't hard to believe that they overpaid for Haddadi.
As for saying I have more knowledge on basketball than you do, I was simply put on the defensive from your prior statement. I do not know which of us is more knowledgeable, that was simply me defending myself due to your unreasonably harsh response. I am a new poster here, and it isn't fun when the first time somebody responds to your post is about how you're "talking out of your ass" and "wanting to hear yourself talk".

Cool. Welcome aboard, it's always great to have some guys who love basketball on here.

As for Hadadi, in addition to the interest from Houston, he had a tryout with the Atlanta Hawks, and also had an offer from the Miami Heat which I'm sure helped drive his price up.

Darko is about to be traded to New York for Zach Randolph in the next few days. Hadadi is essentially the only backup center behind Marc Gasol. And for reference, Gasol is making more than 3 million this year (what has he proven that Hadadi hasn't?) I think 1.5 is more than reasonable for a 23 year old 7'2 center with a high ceiling of potential.

[Makan]

Cool. Welcome aboard, it's always great to have some guys who love basketball on here.
As for Hadadi, in addition to the interest from Houston, he had a tryout with the Atlanta Hawks, and also had an offer from the Miami Heat which I'm sure helped drive his price up.
Darko is about to be traded to New York for Zach Randolph in the next few days. Hadadi is essentially the only backup center behind Marc Gasol. And for reference, Gasol is making more than 3 million this year (what has he proven that Hadadi hasn't?) I think 1.5 is more than reasonable for a 23 year old 7'2 center with a high ceiling of potential.

I thought that the Darko, Marko trade for Randolph was merely a rumor, but we'll see how that turns out. I don't know why the Knicks would ever want to make that trade.

As for Gasol proving more than Haddadi, I never said that. I'm just saying that Haddadi is lucky to even get signed by an NBA team. Had I known that the Heat and the Hawks had also pursued him I wouldn't have made such a big deal out of this. Sorry