To Yashar..

[The-Red]

The funny thing is that Real has a bugdet 9-10 times our budget, but Bayern will always be real's daddy yashar jan....let them talk, they seem to have forgotten the 4 goals we scored on their ass few years back lol or how about schooling them on their own turf in 2001 lol

[IranSoccer#8]

the way i see it, whoever has more turks on their team wins:

bayern-1
real-0

bayern is reals daddy,papi,padre, baba, whatever you want to call them.

[milad]

ok, in 1 word: disagreed. (with everything u said here).

ur team without robbern is us without ribery. he is the most influential player and main guy behind the offensive set up of the team, but it doesnt mean without him, the team is nothing. just like man utd and ronaldo, barcelona and messi, juventus and nedved, milan and kaka (before ronaldinho joined), etc... its more or less the same situation for all big teams around europe.

fighthing spirit is not of the past. remember the getafe bayern game?? we scored twice in the last 10 minutes to qualify for the semis of the UEFA cup while we had a 2 goal deficit. this is the most recent example.

another example, against bremen, we were trailing 5-0 in the 60thminute or so but we didnt give up and kept attacking and scored 2 goals to make it 5-2. too little, too late... but we didnt give up....
another recent example.

bayern wasnt good the past few years and not qualifying for champions league 2 years back made the officials realize that they have been lagging behind the other european elites because of their lack of spending (partly, its because of the german laws like not allowing any foreign investments for more than 50% of any club, like rumennige also pointed out sometime back).
however, we have started to build our team again, and i think with 1 or 2 more purchases, like an experienced GK and an attacking midfielder, the team will be complete.


beharhal...bayern is real's daddy.

any team will attack when they are 5 nil down and will easily score 1 or 2 goals. i cant believe you are using your 5-2 loss to prove a point.

[milad]

diarra,gago and gutti are nothing compared to scweinsteiger, van bommel, ze roberto......
these same losers along with beckham and robinho played against us in the champions league 2 seasons ago (when we didnt have toni, klose, and ribery) and this is wat happened in the end:

remember?

thanx to makaay doing this in the 11th second:


best youth academy after barca and arsenal??
WTF??!! where did u get this bogus info from???

teams like ajax and sporting lisbon have the best youth academy in europe. how u managed to put urselves up there among these guys is beyond my imagination, maybe cos u have produced 1 raul and casillas, u suddenly think u have the best youth academy??

funny how you left out sneijder when joker mentioned him. plus, you are in denial if you think your crappy bayern midfielders are better. gago will be a star.

[milad]

best youth academy after barca and arsenal??
WTF??!! where did u get this bogus info from???

teams like ajax and sporting lisbon have the best youth academy in europe. how u managed to put urselves up there among these guys is beyond my imagination, maybe cos u have produced 1 raul and casillas, u suddenly think u have the best youth academy??

yea we produced raul and casillas. but lets just look at a few other players we produced off the top of my head:

raul
casillas
guti
hierro (not cantera but we made him who he is)
javi garcia
de la red
portillo
soldado
pavon
raul bravo

soon to be stars because of real madrid:

sergio ramos
higuain
gago
drenthe

we also produced 2 of the best coaches in del bosque and rafael benitez.

and we dont even need to produce any players because we have always been the richest club in the world. while sporting lisbon and ajax have no money so they are feeder clubs.

please stop embarrassing yourself further yashar. i like you and dont want to see you get destroyed like this.

[yashar_fasihnia]

any team will attack when they are 5 nil down and will easily score 1 or 2 goals. i cant believe you are using your 5-2 loss to prove a point.

as usual, u miss the point. nor suprising ofcourse

bayern kept attacking the whole game. but everytime they conceded, they kept attacking. they didnt just give up and the players didnt lose the cool, even when the score was 3-0 or 4-0.

bayern attacked from the beginning till the end, but was of no use.

and if u watch enough football, u realize that any team that trails by 4 or 5 goals loses its spirit and just plays passive trying to finish the game off as soon as possible.

[yashar_fasihnia]

funny how you left out sneijder when joker mentioned him. plus, you are in denial if you think your crappy bayern midfielders are better. gago will be a star.

uhm..maybe because sneijder wasnt playing for real that time, but robinho and beckham were wats all this trivial comebacks ur giving me.
all those players he mentioned minus sneijder were still playing for real madrid when we kicked ur @$$ which is exactly wat i said. u expect me to include his name when he really wasny part of the team that time??so wats there to deny?? if u cant accept this, then ur the one in denial!

gago will be a star??? wat kinda argument is this??
resning will be a star. podolski will be a star. schweinsteiger will be a star. lahm will be a star. i can go on as well.... so buddy, unless ur GOD himself, dont come with such lame arguments. let him become a star first, then we talk.

[yashar_fasihnia]

yea we produced raul and casillas. but lets just look at a few other players we produced off the top of my head:
raul
casillas
guti
hierro (not cantera but we made him who he is)
javi garcia
de la red
portillo
soldado
pavon
raul bravo
soon to be stars because of real madrid:
sergio ramos
higuain
gago
drenthe
we also produced 2 of the best coaches in del bosque and rafael benitez.
and we dont even need to produce any players because we have always been the richest club in the world. while sporting lisbon and ajax have no money so they are feeder clubs.
please stop embarrassing yourself further yashar. i like you and dont want to see you get destroyed like this.

how am i embarassing myself milad when u include players from other youth academies as ur own product and mix them up with most of the losers real madrid youth academy has produced??

gago came from boca juniors youth academy
drenthe came from feynoord academy
hierro joined real madrid only in his 20s!!! he was at some other youth academy!!


and the players who actually came from real madrid youth academy besides a few (like casillas and raul and even ramos) are the likes of pavon - CERTAINLY NOT A STAR!
javi garcia, soldado, de la red - THEY ARE NOT STARS, ATLEAST NOT YET! THEY NEED TO EARN IT BY NON REAL MADRID FANS AS WELL!
raul bravo - ARE U KIDDING ME? THE SAME DUDE WHO PLAYS FOR OLYMPIACOS IS NOW A STAR???

and then u say im embarassing myself...


buddy face it, ur real madrid youth academy has produced only 2 3 players who can be called "stars".
the rest are not stars!!!

so ur nowhere close to the elite european clubs when it comes to youth academies!!!

thank god u didnt include van der vart, sneijder and robinho in that lost of urs!!

AGAIN, UR BEING IN DENIAL!!

[milad]

how am i embarassing myself milad when u include players from other youth academies as ur own product and mix them up with most of the losers real madrid youth academy has produced??

gago came from boca juniors youth academy
drenthe came from feynoord academy
hierro joined real madrid only in his 20s!!! he was at some other youth academy!!


and the players who actually came from real madrid youth academy besides a few (like casillas and raul and even ramos) are the likes of pavon - CERTAINLY NOT A STAR!
javi garcia, soldado, de la red - THEY ARE NOT STARS, ATLEAST NOT YET! THEY NEED TO EARN IT BY NON REAL MADRID FANS AS WELL!
raul bravo - ARE U KIDDING ME? THE SAME DUDE WHO PLAYS FOR OLYMPIACOS IS NOW A STAR???

and then u say im embarassing myself...


buddy face it, ur real madrid youth academy has produced only 2 3 players who can be called "stars".
the rest are not stars!!!

so ur nowhere close to the elite european clubs when it comes to youth academies!!!

thank god u didnt include van der vart, sneijder and robinho in that lost of urs!!

AGAIN, UR BEING IN DENIAL!!

when did i claim gago, drenthe, and hierro were in madrids youth system? read my post again. i said they will be stars because madrid will develop them into stars. hierro became who is he at madrid. again, you are not reading my posts properly!

when did i claim the players who were products of cantera were stars? read my post again. they are not stars but they are good players. de la red and garcia are quality defensive midfielders that can start for almost any team in the word. portillo is a good striker who plays on osasuna.

[milad]

uhm..maybe because sneijder wasnt playing for real that time, but robinho and beckham were wats all this trivial comebacks ur giving me.
all those players he mentioned minus sneijder were still playing for real madrid when we kicked ur @$$ which is exactly wat i said. u expect me to include his name when he really wasny part of the team that time??so wats there to deny?? if u cant accept this, then ur the one in denial!
gago will be a star??? wat kinda argument is this??
resning will be a star. podolski will be a star. schweinsteiger will be a star. lahm will be a star. i can go on as well.... so buddy, unless ur GOD himself, dont come with such lame arguments. let him become a star first, then we talk.

robinho and beckham were not in your list. your list was diarra, gago, and guti vs schweinstegier, ze roberto and van bommel and you made your list from the joker saying we have good players like sneijder, gago, diarra, guti. so you took sneijder out and compared them with 3 of bayerns midfielders and now that you know im right you bring beckham and robinho into it and say sneijder wasnt playing. just admit when you are wrong man dont try to twist everything in your favor.

i said gago will be a star and that is my opinion. i did not use it to argue anything. btw podolski hates bayern and might end up in madrid in january.

[yashar_fasihnia]

when did i claim gago, drenthe, and hierro were in madrids youth system? read my post again. i said they will be stars because madrid will develop them into stars. hierro became who is he at madrid. again, you are not reading my posts properly!
when did i claim the players who were products of cantera were stars? read my post again. they are not stars but they are good players. de la red and garcia are quality defensive midfielders that can start for almost any team in the word. portillo is a good striker who plays on osasuna.

baba our discussion was youth academies and "the joker" was claiming real madrid has the best youth academy after barca and arsenal.

buying potentially good players doesnt really meaning making stars. real madrid spends money like hell and every youngster who is about to reach to fame, real buys him. some turn out to be good, some not.

so partly credit to madrid, but at the same time, there is no guarantee if hieroo would go to barca, he wouldnt be wat he became. maybe he would become better. wat makes u think hierro would become worse if he went to a top italian club where worlds best defenders are produced??
we can say this about all the players.

so this discussion of big clubs buying young players who are partly stars in lesser known teams isnt a big thing.

[yashar_fasihnia]

robinho and beckham were not in your list. your list was diarra, gago, and guti vs schweinstegier, ze roberto and van bommel and you made your list from the joker saying we have good players like sneijder, gago, diarra, guti. so you took sneijder out and compared them with 3 of bayerns midfielders and now that you know im right you bring beckham and robinho into it and say sneijder wasnt playing. just admit when you are wrong man dont try to twist everything in your favor.
i said gago will be a star and that is my opinion. i did not use it to argue anything. btw podolski hates bayern and might end up in madrid in january.

ay khodaaaaa.....man az daste to chikar konam!!!
HE DIDNT INCLUDE ROBINHO AND BECKHAM SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARENT WITH MADRID ANYMORE. THEN LATER, I SAID, THE SAME PLAYERS PLUS ROBINHO AND BECKHAM WERE IN REAL MADRID AND WE STILL SCREWED THEM IN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!!!

he didnt include it in the list himself!! since they arent part of the real madrid team now, obviously i wont compare them to my teams current midfielders, BUT WHEN THEY WERE, I SAID THAT THEY GOT SCREWED AS WELL BY THE SAME BAYERN TEAM, THAT TOO WITHOUT TONI, KLOSE, RIBERY....

diarra,gago and gutti are nothing compared to scweinsteiger, van bommel, ze roberto......
these same losers along with beckham and robinho played against us in the champions league 2 seasons ago (when we didnt have toni, klose, and ribery) and this is wat happened in the end:
remember?
thanx to makaay doing this in the 11th second:
best youth academy after barca and arsenal??
WTF??!! where did u get this bogus info from???
teams like ajax and sporting lisbon have the best youth academy in europe. how u managed to put urselves up there among these guys is beyond my imagination, maybe cos u have produced 1 raul and casillas, u suddenly think u have the best youth academy??

[milad]

baba our discussion was youth academies and "the joker" was claiming real madrid has the best youth academy after barca and arsenal.
buying potentially good players doesnt really meaning making stars. real madrid spends money like hell and every youngster who is about to reach to fame, real buys him. some turn out to be good, some not.
so partly credit to madrid, but at the same time, there is no guarantee if hieroo would go to barca, he wouldnt be wat he became. maybe he would become better. wat makes u think hierro would become worse if he went to a top italian club where worlds best defenders are produced??
we can say this about all the players.
so this discussion of big clubs buying young players who are partly stars in lesser known teams isnt a big thing.

you cant say it like that. i could say what if shevchenko went to lazio and because the world player of the year. how do you know this would ,have not been the case? see it doesnt make sense. fact is hierro was an amazing player and he became amazing when he was at madrid. so madrid deserve credit for it. you laughed at the thought of us producing players when in fact we have a good youth system who does develop a lot of world class players EVEN though we are the richest club and dont even need to do this.

[The Joker]

[The Joker]

yea we produced raul and casillas. but lets just look at a few other players we produced off the top of my head:
raul
casillas
guti
hierro (not cantera but we made him who he is)
javi garcia
de la red
portillo
soldado
pavon
raul bravo
soon to be stars because of real madrid:
sergio ramos
higuain
gago
drenthe
we also produced 2 of the best coaches in del bosque and rafael benitez.
and we dont even need to produce any players because we have always been the richest club in the world. while sporting lisbon and ajax have no money so they are feeder clubs.
please stop embarrassing yourself further yashar. i like you and dont want to see you get destroyed like this.

Repped. Let him talk milad jan he's owned and everybody knows that real are bayerns daddy.