To Yashar..

[The Joker]

im also pretty sure deportivo is real madrids daddy and deportivo is shit and bayern is deportivo's daddy, so bayern is real madrids daddy.
game over

Im afraid you're wrong about deportivo. Last time you two met, Deportivo La Coruna kicked your ass twice so deportivo is also your daddy no doubt. I heard that after barcelona and arsenal, real and bayern munich together with ajax has the best academics.

Name one player like Raul who has played whole his life in Real Madrid and was brought up from real madrids youth academics and going through so much in his career (La Liga titles, CL titles, FIFA World club title, Copa Del rey title, EURO Supercup and Spanish supercups) and been so successful? Name one player from Bayern Munich who ever have producted such a class player like Raul?

[Suprah]

I heard that after barcelona and arsenal, real and bayern munich together with ajax has the best academics.

you forgot manchester united

Name one player like Raul who has played whole his life in Real Madrid and was brought up from real madrids youth academics and going through so much in his career (La Liga titles, CL titles, FIFA World club title, Copa Del rey title, EURO Supercup and Spanish supercups) and been so successful? Name one player from Bayern Munich who ever have producted such a class player like Raul?

boy are you asking for it. i'll happily let yashar give the answer

[The Joker]

you forgot manchester united
boy are you asking for it. i'll happily let yashar give the answer

I don't have any idea of manchester united. But I will be waiting for yashars answer tommorow

[yashar_fasihnia]

you cant say it like that. i could say what if shevchenko went to lazio and because the world player of the year. how do you know this would ,have not been the case? see it doesnt make sense. fact is hierro was an amazing player and he became amazing when he was at madrid. so madrid deserve credit for it. you laughed at the thought of us producing players when in fact we have a good youth system who does develop a lot of world class players EVEN though we are the richest club and dont even need to do this.

baba jan, i said, it doesnt deserve much credit because all big teams buy young players with potential and make them who they are.
see, now we can say christiano ronaldo and man utd, but did christiano ronaldo actually come out of man utds youth academy??
wat about anderson?? wat about nani??

or chelsea with terry?? with lampard??

or barca with ronaldinho??? etoo???

wat about van der vart?? real madrid?? hamburg?? ajax??? see...there is no clear answer!


it deserves partial credit, thats it. real madrid does buy young potentials around the world, just like any big team around the world. so its no big deal really. name me any top club in the world and i can give u a list of examples where these clubs have bought young players from other less popular teams and leagues and have now become popular. its nothing special really.

if these players were coming from real madrids youth academy, then madrid deserved credit, but to buy talents as soon as they start shining in the less popular leagues in my opinion doesnt deserve much credit.

[Suprah]

I don't have any idea of manchester united

that's the team that actually introduced the concept of youth academies in the first place under Sir Matt Busby. The amount of players that have become great players over the last 55 years from United's youth academy is staggering. I suggest you read about them.

[The Joker]

that's the team that actually introduced the concept of youth academies in the first place under Sir Matt Busby. The amount of players that have become great players over the last 55 years from United's youth academy is staggering. I suggest you read about them.

I will find it out. Thanks

[Suprah]

I will find it out. Thanks

A few names to mention that have emerged from United's youth academy over the past 55+ years and played for United:

Duncan Edwards, Bobby Charlton, George Best, Bill Foulkes, Mark Hughes, Norman Whiteside, Arthur Albiston, Sammy McIlroy, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt, David Beckham, Paul Scholes, John O'Shea, Darren Fletcher, Wes Brown....not to mention the recent youngsters like Giuseppe Rossi, Gerard Pique, Rafael and Fabio da Silva, etc who joined United's academies.

to name a few

[The Joker]

A few names to mention that have emerged from United's youth academy over the past 55+ years and played for United:

Duncan Edwards, Bobby Charlton, George Best, Bill Foulkes, Mark Hughes, Norman Whiteside, Arthur Albiston, Sammy McIlroy, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt, David Beckham, Paul Scholes, John O'Shea, Darren Fletcher, Wes Brown....not to mention the recent youngsters like Giuseppe Rossi, Gerard Pique, Rafael and Fabio da Silva, etc who joined United's academies.

to name a few

Man I have to admit that man utds academies is pretty impressive

[shayan20]

It's Not too difficult to swallow this loss for bayern fans, as this only cost them 3 points and only a league game.
The 4-0 loss to Zenit was the worst IMO

[Suprah]

Man I have to admit that man utds academies is pretty impressive

as I said, the term 'youth academy' and 'youth development' was made at Manchester United in the 1950s under Sir Matt Busby's managerial leadership and his army of some great talent scouts spread across the British Isles back then clubs in England had to face some strict rules regarding non-British/Irish players in their squads and to be frank outside the natives of UK and Ireland, there were almost zero foreign players in their squads.

'If they are good enough, they are old enough.' - Sir Matt Busby

[yashar_fasihnia]

Im afraid you're wrong about deportivo. Last time you two met, Deportivo La Coruna kicked your ass twice so deportivo is also your daddy no doubt.

and last time u met werder bremen, they kicked ur @$$ as well! so werder bremen is also ur daddy no doubt!! that too, without their best player - diego!

I heard that after barcelona and arsenal, real and bayern munich together with ajax has the best academics.

Name one player like Raul who has played whole his life in Real Madrid and was brought up from real madrids youth academics and going through so much in his career (La Liga titles, CL titles, FIFA World club title, Copa Del rey title, EURO Supercup and Spanish supercups) and been so successful? Name one player from Bayern Munich who ever have producted such a class player like Raul?

u want 1 player?? how about i name u 2? will u be happy then?

1) OWEN HARGREAVES who came from bayern youth academy has won everything with bayern, all those u mentioned above:

FC Bayern Munich

* German Bundesliga:
o Winner (4): 2000-01, 2002-03, 2004-05, 2005-06
o Runner-up (1): 2003-04
* DFB Pokal: -> German Cup
o Winner (3): 2002-03, 2004-05, 2005-06
* Premiere Ligapokal:
o Winner (1): 2004
* UEFA Champions League:
o Winner (1): 2000-01
* Intercontinental Cup:
o Winner (1): 2001

here are also his individual awards while he was at bayern:
* 2001 European U-21 Player of the Year <-- bayern youth academy product beat all other european players from other european youth academies
* Bravo Award: 2001
* England Player of the Year: 2006
* England Player of the World Cup: 2006

On 12 August 2000, Hargreaves played in his first Bundesliga match, making an appearance as a substitute for Carsten Jancker in the 83rd minute. His first start came against SpVgg Unterhaching on 16 September 2000

that time, he was only 19 (he is born in 1981) and isnt it ironic that this 19 year old bossed around figo and carlos from REAL MADRID AGAIN!! not surprising though...cos bayern are real madrids daddy!!



2. SEPP MAIER - one of germany's best GKs ever. and he played his entire life at bayern only:

* German Champions: 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974
* German Cup: 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971
* European Cup: 1974, 1975, 1976 <- now called Champions league
* UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1967
* Intercontinental Cup: 1976
* World Cup: 1974
* European Championship: 1972

[yashar_fasihnia]

Repped. Let him talk milad jan he's owned and everybody knows that real are bayerns daddy.

how am i owned when u guys take pride in "producing" (who didnt even come from real madrids youth academy anyways ) players like raul bravo and portillo?

u guys are trying realllly hardddd.......but, bayern will always be ur daddy, and real will be bayern's biatch, just like any pet owner who will always be his dogs master, no matter how old or how weak he becomes

[The Joker]

Yashar just keep your mouth shoot. Do you really compare hagreaves to Raul??
We will be your daddy so just shut up. Maybe Werder Bremen won the last time, but we also beat them at home atleast compare to bayerns 2-5 loss against the same opponent lol

[ardi11]

Yashar just keep your mouth shoot. Do you really compare hagreaves to Raul??
We will be your daddy so just shut up. Maybe Werder Bremen won the last time, but we also beat them at home atleast compare to bayerns 2-5 loss against the same opponent lol

yashar never disrespects members here. you shouldn't forget your manners when you come online

[The Joker]

yashar never disrespects members here. you shouldn't forget your manners when you come online

Who do you think you are to judge me?