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    #16
    its always real and barca in spain....all the others chop and change
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      #17
      Originally posted by Suprah View Post
      its always real and barca in spain....all the others chop and change
      valencia???
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        #18
        Originally posted by shayan_esteghlali View Post
        valencia???
        The team that almost got relegated last season ?

        Most of these teams below Real and Barca are like 'flavours of the year' and cant withstand constant top table challenges.

        Valencia, Deportivo, Seville, Villarreal, Real Sociedad, and so on.
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          #19
          Originally posted by Suprah View Post
          The team that almost got relegated last season ?

          Most of these teams below Real and Barca are like 'flavours of the year' and cant withstand constant top table challenges.

          Valencia, Deportivo, Seville, Villarreal, Real Sociedad, and so on.
          wrong my friend. only this year real and barca have dominated the rest of la liga (still doesnt mean the rest of the teams are bad, look at villareal who was on level with arsenal and man u), like the top 4 english teams do yearly for the past decade.

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            #20
            Originally posted by milad View Post
            wrong my friend. only this year real and barca have dominated the rest of la liga (still doesnt mean the rest of the teams are bad, look at villareal who was on level with arsenal and man u), like the top 4 english teams do yearly for the past decade.
            Not saying teams are bad. Saying they cant withstand the challenge each and every season. I am sure even Sevilla and Villarreal will eventually become mid-table teams once again and some other team will take their place fighting for CL spots.

            and as far as England go, its only been 4 seasons with the same top 4 Before that Liverpool were horrible, and Chelsea didnt have Abramovich's money. Sides like Everton and Newcastle always fancied a chance.
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              #21
              Originally posted by Suprah View Post
              Not saying teams are bad. Saying they cant withstand the challenge each and every season. I am sure even Sevilla and Villarreal will eventually become mid-table teams once again and some other team will take their place fighting for CL spots.
              and as far as England go, its only been 4 seasons with the same top 4 Before that Liverpool were horrible, and Chelsea didnt have Abramovich's money. Sides like Everton and Newcastle always fancied a chance.
              fact is when you take money into consideration spanish clubs are amazing. if valencia or villareal had half of tottenhams money they would be amazing (they are still better than tottenham lol). valencia was in the same situation as leeds, but did they relegate to 3rd division? no.... they are still in a champions league spot. EPL only has money which makes the league good because of imports. overall english players just suck.

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                #22
                Originally posted by milad View Post
                fact is when you take money into consideration spanish clubs are amazing. if valencia or villareal had half of tottenhams money they would be amazing (they are still better than tottenham lol). valencia was in the same situation as leeds, but did they relegate to 3rd division? no.... they are still in a champions league spot. EPL only has money which makes the league good because of imports. overall english players just suck.
                That is true to a large extent, but you wont expect Valencia or Villarreal to ever win the Champions League unless they buy enough quality to go through to the final push...like Real and Barca and the EPL teams.

                English football styles are changing (alhamdolillah) and they needed the foreigners to know what football is all about.
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Suprah View Post
                  That is true to a large extent, but you wont expect Valencia or Villarreal to ever win the Champions League unless they buy enough quality to go through to the final push...like Real and Barca and the EPL teams.
                  i agree, but im saying that those clubs are better than the other EPL teams outside the top 4 which makes la liga better overall, considering all 20 teams, even though the top 4 EPL sides are better in the champs league.

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