Differences between USA and TM?

[Scooter]

What would you say is the biggest differences between TM and the USA, having seen the game today? For me, it is definitely:

1) USA has much better endurance. It's not even close. For example, I greatly admire Karimi, but having seen how he moves in recent WCQ.. he likely would have collapsed on the field, if he had played at the pace the USA displayed today. In fact, you could say that about several other of our players.

2) USA is more aggressive when it comes to winning balls. Excepting Connor Casey, who was last minute sub for the USA, all of the other USA forwards came back and played defense when needed. Like many other great teams, they defended from the front to the back.

3) The USA's back 4 are better as a unit, in comparison to TM's. (Although I have to say that Spain had lots of space down the wings, which is more the fault of USA's midfielders)

Now, having said all this, will someone please, PLEASE tell me why we have not (at least) rectified problem #1?

What is it about Iranian players.. that most of them cannot keep up, in terms of endurance, on the international stage? Sure, it's not every TM player, but it's certainly enough that in the final third of a game, against a good opponent (or one who is well-conditioned, e.g. SK), we tend to breakdown. We tend to let the other team almost camp out on our defensive half.

Is it the IPL standards?

Is it our respective genetic makeup? (Just kidding.. just kidding )

Is our diet crap? What?

I am baffled! In my opinion, if we could couple superior conditioning with our good-great techinical ability, our team would be so much better. It's such an obvious "fix".

[mf_doom]

-better coach
-good teamwork
-better work ethic
-Their federation isn't run by morons; they actually schedule good friendlies and do there best to develop talent instead of getting there team to play the cameroonian C team or Kuwait for Billionth time like IFF

The only area that i think iran trumps america is skill. There is this inherent level of skill in Iranian football that is higher than America. Problem is that that skill rarely develops in Iran because of mismanagement.

[Scooter]

Lol, I agree with everything you say, mf doom, but my main question concerned...

Why is it that our conditioning sucks? It can't all be coaching, because the TM manager (whomever it is at the time) doesn't train the players year round. The TM manager and coaches only have control of the players for a short amount of time, excepting Asian Cup and World Cup periods.

[Nariman]

government

[djmo]

They actually have a government that cares for their progress and helps them ensure their sports are in the top-tier in the world.

I remember I told an English dude a few years ago that US will eventually be better than England in football, he laughed at me. I don't think we'll have to wait much longer for that to happen.

[mf_doom]

Lol, I agree with everything you say, mf doom, but my main question concerned...
Why is it that our conditioning sucks? It can't all be coaching, because the TM manager (whomever it is at the time) doesn't train the players year round. The TM manager and coaches only have control of the players for a short amount of time, excepting Asian Cup and World Cup periods.

because iran is about 400 years behind america and probably the rest of the developed world when it comes to sports science. America produces amazing athletes constantly in many different sports. An insane amount of the american medical community is dedicated to solely to atheltic development. This does not exist in iran.

[mkbf2]

One word: Conditioning

[1Heesham1]

great teamplay... i wanted them to thump the arrogant cheating spanish and they did! get in!

[Türküm]

Gheyrat
Government
Guidance

[Hosseini]

Gheyrat
Government
Guidance

i agree.

[DRCha]

They actually have a government that cares for their progress and helps them ensure their sports are in the top-tier in the world.

I remember I told an English dude a few years ago that US will eventually be better than England in football, he laughed at me. I don't think we'll have to wait much longer for that to happen.

I understand what you mean. I'm from the US. Whenever I say that I like football/soccer in Korea, people tend to get surprised and reply, "isn't football/soccer unpopular there?" Well it's true, but the minority who play football/soccer are actually a considerable number when compared to many other countries. I actually see more fans in MLS stadiums than I do in the K-League ones. (Part of the reason is that Korean workers work longer hours and are too busy or too tired to attend). Many of the American kids learn to play football/soccer in school. In Korea, most schools don't have an adequate gym class and have less gym time than Americans do. They concentrate more on non-physical studies. The kids who want to play football/soccer professionally attend special schools for potential athletes. Those special schools are good though. Otherwise, Korea would rarely even qualify. Korea has beaten or tied the US before. But I don't think it's easy to beat the US now.

Btw- are all of the US team originally from the US?

[Scooter]

because iran is about 400 years behind america and probably the rest of the developed world when it comes to sports science. America produces amazing athletes constantly in many different sports. An insane amount of the american medical community is dedicated to solely to atheltic development. This does not exist in iran.

Thanks for the direct answer, mf doom. This was a specific, direct answer that I wanted, although respectfully, I am not sure I agree with it.

Ghana, Ivory Coast, Costa Rica (a VERY good team that recently thumped the USA) are just several very poor countries that likely don't have good facilities or a developed sports science programs, that help churn out better footballers. Yet they seem to do better than TM of late.

So why Iran? Iran may not have nearly the facilities that the USA boasts, but surely some of the fault has to fall upon the will of the players who are clearly out of shape/lazy (two traits that are connected).

So, are there cultural issues that directly affect this? For example, do some of our players have too ****y of an attitude, and perhaps habitually underestimate opponents? Do they too casually dismiss the pace of international games, and thus, do not prepare (condition) accordingly?

I personally wouldn't attribute conditioning problems to IPL/La Liga/EPL schedules, because most other players on opposing teams also have to deal with the rigors of whatever leagues they play in.

[Parham10]

great teamplay... i wanted them to thump the arrogant cheating spanish and they did! get in!

lol aree baba, the english are REAALY fair right??

[mf_doom]

Thanks for the direct answer, mf doom. This was a specific, direct answer that I wanted, although respectfully, I am not sure I agree with it.
Ghana, Ivory Coast, Costa Rica (a VERY good team that recently thumped the USA) are just several very poor countries that likely don't have good facilities or a developed sports science programs, that help churn out better footballers. Yet they seem to do better than TM of late.
So why Iran? Iran may not have nearly the facilities that the USA boasts, but surely some of the fault has to fall upon the will of the players who are clearly out of shape/lazy (two traits that are connected).
So, are there cultural issues that directly affect this? For example, do some of our players have too ****y of an attitude, and perhaps habitually underestimate opponents? Do they too casually dismiss the pace of international games, and thus, do not prepare (condition) accordingly?
I personally wouldn't attribute conditioning problems to IPL/La Liga/EPL schedules, because most other players on opposing teams also have to deal with the rigors of whatever leagues they play in.

lol dude you cannot compare iranians to africans for two simple reasons.
First off africans are 10000000X better athletes than Iranians. Its not even close. Second african players speak french, and they are constantly being scouted by french and european clubs. So while we might have the same poor infrastructure, african players have other advantages that we do not.

[Super Shojaei]

usa can beat spain we cant