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[Darvish11]

Ok before you put a decent argument, but now I hate to say it but your just stupid dude Im not arguing with a kid who aint got shit and talks out his ass! you could just be talking out of frustration but look at that last thing you wrote: 38 and 8 is better than 37 and 7 and ignoring EVERY other aspect? plain and simple STUPIDITY! CASE CLOSED Im not arguing with a kid who dont know what he's sayin no more!!! I was right in the end heeeelll yeaahhhh! PEACE lil dude.

wow, you obviously didnt see the humor in that...

[Amir H F]

wow, you obviously didnt see the humor in that...

humor? how was that humor??? sure didnt seem like a typical joke but if you insist...

[milad]

I know that what some of you dont understand is that I agree he is a very good player but I am only the fact that he is not "the best player in the NBA" this season, thats all! and I dont think he makes the top three either, maybe top 5. You guys think I say he sucks or somethin?

lol dont try to change what you said. you said iverson is NOT in top 5 and is in top 10. then you said players like yao, carmelo, duncan, mcgrady, kobe, lebron are better. and i told you exactly why and how iverson is better then all of them.

how can you say iverson couldnt help his team win? he helped out more than lebron or at least they helped out equally. thats what i hate about mvp awards... only players on good teams win because "they led their team to victory":bs: while iverson scores 38 and his team loses so he was "unable to lead his team to victory". but you know youre right, he should have score 95 at least... whatever that makes his team win.

[Amir H F]

lol dont try to change what you said. you said iverson is NOT in top 5 and is in top 10. then you said players like yao, carmelo, duncan, mcgrady, kobe, lebron are better. and i told you exactly why and how iverson is better then all of them.
how can you say iverson couldnt help his team win? he helped out more than lebron or at least they helped out equally. thats what i hate about mvp awards... only players on good teams win because "they led their team to victory":bs: while iverson scores 38 and his team loses so he was "unable to lead his team to victory". but you know youre right, he should have score 95 at least... whatever that makes his team win.

I never said he didnt help his team I said he didnt take control to win the game but obviously he didnt have much of a choice since Lebron took over, LEAD and HELPED are different , and I didnt change anything I simply said he "could" be top 5 but still not in my opinion (6th or 7th), you didnt prove jack sh*t dude cuz you just going by what youve set your mind to think and cant look at the facts...Im not going to waste anymore time on this go read my previous posts and may god help you understand! even nyc backed out by saying it was "humor" in his last post, me and mojo put the numbers of tonight in your faces and I put the season in your faces, SO DROP IT BUDDY!

[Darvish11]

I never said he didnt help his team I said he didnt take control to win the game but obviously he didnt have much of a choice since Lebron took over, LEAD and HELPED are different , and I didnt change anything I simply said he "could" be top 5 but still not in my opinion (6th or 7th), you didnt prove jack sh*t dude cuz you just going by what youve set your mind to think and cant look at the facts...Im not going to waste anymore time on this go read my previous posts and may god help you understand! even nyc backed out by saying it was "humor" in his last post, me and mojo put the numbers of tonight in your faces and I put the season in your faces, SO DROP IT BUDDY!

the humorous part wasnt where i said iverson was better than lebron, it was the way i said it, because 38 is more than 37 and 8 is more than 7.
THE FACTS ALL SAY that Iverson is better. You havent presented any facts at all. You are just saying what you think. Those arent facts. The facts are that iverson is an mvp, rookie of the year all-nba first team member several times, 2 time all star mvp, college all american, and rookie of the year, and that he is averaging more points, assists, and steals this year, and has averaged more points, assists, and steals than lebron ever since lebrons first year in the nba.

[Amir H F]

the humorous part wasnt where i said iverson was better than lebron, it was the way i said it, because 38 is more than 37 and 8 is more than 7.
THE FACTS ALL SAY that Iverson is better. You havent presented any facts at all. You are just saying what you think. Those arent facts. The facts are that iverson is an mvp, rookie of the year all-nba first team member several times, 2 time all star mvp, college all american, and rookie of the year, and that he is averaging more points, assists, and steals this year, and has averaged more points, assists, and steals than lebron ever since lebrons first year in the nba.

The kid doesnt know much he's going off what he thinks so I said that...I have presented facts over and over and over!!!! however it doesnt seem to go through your head, and honestly Im done and after all this I think your stupid for not understanding where Im coming from so go away I dont give a shit what you think I stated ALL my facts and stats, but your coming back with them same shit when I put all the stats in front of you and Lebron is better overall in a shorter time span too, like Ron White one of my favorite comedians says: "you cant fix stupid" lets just agree to disagree.



CASE CLOSED

[Darvish11]

The kid doesnt know much he's going off what he thinks so I said that...I have presented facts over and over and over!!!! however it doesnt seem to go through your head, and honestly Im done and after all this I think your stupid for not understanding where Im coming from so go away I dont give a shit what you think I stated ALL my facts and stats, but your coming back with them same shit when I put all the stats in front of you and Lebron is better overall in a shorter time span too, like Ron White one of my favorite comedians says: "you cant fix stupid" lets just agree to disagree.



CASE CLOSED

FACTS!? WHAT FACTS?! Facts are the numbers that i have posted above you. Lets add another fact, lebrons teammates are statistically MUCH better than Iverson's. Thats a fact. THE ONLY FACTS that you have presented that are in favor of lebron is that he has more blocks, triple doubles, and rebounds. THATS IT.

I think your stupid

Irony at its best

[milad]

no facts at all amir. but we actually proved that statistically iverson is better.

[Amir H F]

Ok well lets compare them "STATISICALLY" shall we....
Iverson 32.8 pts, 3.3 rebs, 7.5 assts, 2 steals, no blocks, 45%FG
James 31.5 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.7 assts, 1.6 steals, 1 block, 48%FG
And keep in mind this is a 20 year old vs an All-Star Veteran and I said James had 6rebs 6assts until I looked it up and its actually more like 7rebs 7assts wow By the way add those 5 stats together and Lebron has 48.1, and Iverson 45.8 if that means anything, and dont cry about rebounds and height because as someone who is 6'1'' myself I learned if you correctly position yourself and box out you can grab quite a few, more than 3 at least! ESPECIALLY if you play 43mins a game!!!
SO you say "statistically" does that mean adding how many they have advantages in and saying "3-2 Iverson is better"? sorry but thats a retarded statement! Ok points Iverson is only 1.3 better and takes more shots, rebs well NO COMPARISON, assists only .8 better for someone who plays point guard to a frequent Small Forward!!!, blocks again no comarison, and steals is pretty much tied with Iverson only .4 ahead, PLUS he shoots better from the field!!! So the ones Iverson leads in are SLIGHTLY better so you give me that 3-2 NONSENSE.
By the way Iverson averages 25.4 shots a game and Lebron 23. So you decide what he could do with that "2 shots" maybe pass him with assists and points both!!! I cant put it in front of you any more CLEARER just look at those numbers and RECOGNIZE fool, check yo'self.

There you go genius...like I said I wll no longer argue with you, your one of those 14 year olds who only goes by what he thinks and doesnt take a second to look at some other views and have the balls to accept he is wrong. All the voters in the NBA who are critics are not stupid its there Job to analyze players and vote for them and Lebron obviously has much more votes, if you dont care about what I think at least look at the experts. "Irony at its best" haha good one little kid.

[Amir H F]

no facts at all amir. but we actually proved that statistically iverson is better.

No facts? look below at that post and add the numbers...need a calculator? going by OVERALL stats Lebron is clearly better, but I guess you guys go by how many stats they are higher than the other one! which is stupid, for example this would be a possibility with your stupid method:

Player 1: 31 pts, 2 assts, 3 rebs, 5 steals, 3 blocks
Player 2: 30 pts, 15 assts, 10 rebs, 4.5 steals, 2.5 blocks

So by your method Player 1 is better right? After all he is better in 3 categories to 2, regardless to what extent...is that how you determine who's is the better player statistically??? NO look at the OVERALL numbers...its freakin' COMMON SENSE!!!

[milad]

No facts? look below at that post and add the numbers...need a calculator? going by OVERALL stats Lebron is clearly better, but I guess you guys go by how many stats they are higher than the other one! which is stupid, for example this would be a possibility with your stupid method:
Player 1: 31 pts, 2 assts, 3 rebs, 5 steals, 3 blocks
Player 2: 30 pts, 15 assts, 10 rebs, 4.5 steals, 2.5 blocks
So by your method Player 1 is better right? After all he is better in 3 categories to 2, regardless to what extent...is that how you determine who's is the better player??? NO look at the OVERALL numbers...its freakin' COMMON SENSE!!!

no because assists are more important. plus, lebron is ONLY better than iverson in rebounds per game and blocks per game and also 2/3% in FG %. you decide whos better. someone with better FG% and rebs/blocks (because they are 8 inches taller)? or someone with more points, assists, steals, FT%, minutes?

[Amir H F]

no because assists are more important. plus, lebron is ONLY better than iverson in rebounds per game and blocks per game and also 2/3% in FG %. you decide whos better. someone with better FG% and rebs/blocks (because they are 8 inches taller)? or someone with more points, assists, steals, FT%, minutes?

Exactly but AGAIN what you failed to understand is Im saying TO WHAT EXTENT are they better? Thats why I made that Example of Player 1 and Player 2 to give you a better understanding but I guess not. And stop saying he is 8 inches taller, we are talking about who is the better player this year not who is the better player compared to there height and size etc...Iverson is only 1 or less than one better than Lebron in Points, Assts, and Steals, and he plays more minutes than Lebron, but other than that Lebron dominates everything else on the stat sheet!!! How is that not PERFECT proof that he is better statistically? Use your head and you will know... or try adding all the stats together and see who is better OVERALL STATISTICALLY!!!

[Amir H F]

FACTS!? WHAT FACTS?! Facts are the numbers that i have posted above you. Lets add another fact, lebrons teammates are statistically MUCH better than Iverson's. Thats a fact. THE ONLY FACTS that you have presented that are in favor of lebron is that he has more blocks, triple doubles, and rebounds. THATS IT.
Irony at its best

Hey bro if I offended you in any way Im sorry but Im just stating my opinion and trying to back it up, sorry if I got carried away in any sort and you made it look like "I think your stupid" but the rest of that sentence was "for not understanding where Im coming from" because like it or not I had a decent point, as did you and even Milad Jan sorry, but in the end they are 2 great players and as for who is better its simply ones own personal opinion (but look at that overall stats ) cough' James is better cough' anyways my bad bro, heres to future friendly arguments.

[milad]

Exactly but AGAIN what you failed to understand is Im saying TO WHAT EXTENT are they better? Thats why I made that Example of Player 1 and Player 2 to give you a better understanding but I guess not. And stop saying he is 8 inches taller, we are talking about who is the better player this year not who is the better player compared to there height and size etc...Iverson is only 1 or less than one better than Lebron in Points, Assts, and Steals, and he plays more minutes than Lebron, but other than that Lebron dominates everything else on the stat sheet!!! How is that not PERFECT proof that he is better statistically? Use your head and you will know... or try adding all the stats together and see who is better OVERALL STATISTICALLY!!!

lol ya, lebron is better in everything except only points, assists, steals, and FT% LOL.

i already told you why lebron is slightly better OVERALL STATISTICALLY. because hes 8 inches taller which lets him get 4 more rebounds and 1 more block then iverson and 3% better at FG%. you argued that height doesnt matter but for blocks it OBVIOUSLY does and you CANT deny this. so even if you say height doesnt matter for rebounds per game (which it does AT LEAST a little bit) that leaves lebron being better only at 4 more rebounds per game and 3% FG. EVERYTHING ELSE iverson is better! THIS is why i say iverson is better and when you said hes only better by 1 THAT is why i say iverson is only SLIGHTLY better. i hope you get my point.

[Amir H F]

lol ya, lebron is better in everything except only points, assists, steals, and FT% LOL.
i already told you why lebron is slightly better OVERALL STATISTICALLY. because hes 8 inches taller which lets him get 4 more rebounds and 1 more block then iverson and 3% better at FG%. you argued that height doesnt matter but for blocks it OBVIOUSLY does and you CANT deny this. so even if you say height doesnt matter for rebounds per game (which it does AT LEAST a little bit) that leaves lebron being better only at 4 more rebounds per game and 3% FG. EVERYTHING ELSE iverson is better! THIS is why i say iverson is better and when you said hes only better by 1 THAT is why i say iverson is only SLIGHTLY better. i hope you get my point.

I really dont want to argue this matter any further but I just want to make a quick note....you say blocks is affected by height? yes and no....think about it if you are a point guard, you are GUARDING a point guard so usually they are about same height so thats no excuse, other than that I stand by everything I said...sorry if you disagree.