2009 PFDC Fantasy Basketball League

[Demis-11]

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if you wanna make a statement you gotta get rid of gibson and hickson (although i see future potential in him), you should at least grab k.love (could be back soon) or heck even rasheed or someone who at least puts better than 8pts 3bds

as for lou that sucks he was putting up some good numbers

[Babak]

lol, look at what my team did tonight. It's just not right. 50 from Carmelo and 40 from Al Harrington. Up 7-4 right now, but this could go 7-4 for Demis just as easily.

[Masoud_A]

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if you wanna make a statement you gotta get rid of gibson and hickson (although i see future potential in him), you should at least grab k.love (could be back soon) or heck even rasheed or someone who at least puts better than 8pts 3bds

as for lou that sucks he was putting up some good numbers

K.love is out another 2-3 weeks after the MRI, he needs players who can play and play good, Will Bynum is doing good e.g he will be a good addition to his team.

[Babak]

A free lesson for everyone in the league: Generally whoever controls FTM (and thus indirectly FT%), controls the matchup. That's the X factor category.

Anybody can find blocks, 3's, rebounds, assists, etc. help on the free agent market. Those types of specialists are a dime a dozen. As an example, 8 of the top 25 3 point shooters in the league right now are a FA in our league. But FTM? Out of the top 50 FTM guys right now, only 1 player is a free agent right now: Will Bynum (too bad he's so terrible in all the other categories)

Out of the top 25 FTM guys, I currently have 5 of them: Carmelo, Wade, Maggette, Westbrook, and Harrington. After that, nobody in our league even has 4 in the top 25.

I also have 5 guys from 25-50 in FTM: Jason Thompson, Anthony Randolph, David Lee, Joe Johnson, and Baron Davis.

Ok, that's the lesson for today. Hopefully some of you put this lesson to use for next year's draft.

[ommy48]

A free lesson for everyone in the league: Generally whoever controls FTM (and thus indirectly FT%), controls the matchup. That's the X factor category.

Anybody can find blocks, 3's, rebounds, assists, etc. help on the free agent market. Those types of specialists are a dime a dozen. As an example, 8 of the top 25 3 point shooters in the league right now are a FA in our league. But FTM? Out of the top 50 FTM guys right now, only 1 player is a free agent right now: Will Bynum (too bad he's so terrible in all the other categories)

Out of the top 25 FTM guys, I currently have 5 of them: Carmelo, Wade, Maggette, Westbrook, and Harrington. After that, nobody in our league even has 4 in the top 25.

I also have 5 guys from 25-50 in FTM: Jason Thompson, Anthony Randolph, David Lee, Joe Johnson, and Baron Davis.

Ok, that's the lesson for today. Hopefully some of you put this lesson to use for next year's draft.

No the real lesson is that I would be handing you your ass on a platter this week by a 7-4 margin if your were matched up against me, and that's with no Bogut, no Kmart and a dormant Devin Harris and Jennings. The real lesson is to draft a balanced line-up that produces week in and week out no matter who might be injured or who has a bad week. I also know how different NBA franchises work from the front office down to the coaching staff, which allows me to know which players are just flash in the pan type producers, and which ones will put up stats regardless of various factors.

For example you crowed about picking up Anthony Randolph when I dropped him, saying that you had picked up a sleeper after he had two good games, where Nelson had to play him by default, which I knew would no longer be the case for the rest of the season because Nelson does not like AR, as evidenced by benching him behind Mikki Moore when they only had 6 players all of last week (something you should have known, being well versed in bay area sports and all). That my friend is called NBA acumen, which is part intuition/part knowledge. For example you unwisely dropped Tyreke Evans right into my hands who along with Curry and Jennings formed a trio of rookies that I bet any team would like in their backcourt right about now.

And I don't notice you posting your daily blasts about Corey "perennially injured for some BS injury" Magette stats lately huh? I wonder why...and you thought I was foolish enough to trade bargnani for maggette and randolph, giving me an explanation that told me that you thought I was some sort of amateur at this stuff....I look forward to our impending matchup.

[Demis-11]

babak take it easy! carmelo goes off 50p-5r-6a, harrington 41-10 and lee 23-7 in the same game!

[Babak]

No the real lesson is that I would be handing you your ass on a platter this week by a 7-4 margin if your were matched up against me, and that's with no Bogut, no Kmart and a dormant Devin Harris and Jennings. The real lesson is to draft a balanced line-up that produces week in and week out no matter who might be injured or who has a bad week. I also know how different NBA franchises work from the front office down to the coaching staff, which allows me to know which players are just flash in the pan type producers, and which ones will put up stats regardless of various factors.
For example you crowed about picking up Anthony Randolph when I dropped him, saying that you had picked up a sleeper after he had two good games, where Nelson had to play him by default, which I knew would no longer be the case for the rest of the season because Nelson does not like AR, as evidenced by benching him behind Mikki Moore when they only had 6 players all of last week (something you should have known, being well versed in bay area sports and all). That my friend is called NBA acumen, which is part intuition/part knowledge. For example you unwisely dropped Tyreke Evans right into my hands who along with Curry and Jennings formed a trio of rookies that I bet any team would like in their backcourt right about now.
And I don't notice you posting your daily blasts about Corey "perennially injured for some BS injury" Magette stats lately huh? I wonder why...and you thought I was foolish enough to trade bargnani for maggette and randolph, giving me an explanation that told me that you thought I was some sort of amateur at this stuff....I look forward to our impending matchup.

Everyone deals with injuries, usually it balances out by the end of the year for everyone. As far as K-Mart goes, dropping him is without a doubt the worst managerial move of the year up to this point in the entire league. Shahryar took advantage of the gift handed to him on a silver platter, and will reap the big benefits of it in the near future.

Fortunately for you, I dropped Tyreke before Kevin Martin got injured and his numbers were mediocre. There is no way you would be getting those kinds of numbers from him if it weren't for the ironic injury to your own guy K-Mart, right? And don't worry about my guys. In the end, results will ultimately do the talking for us at the end of the season. After all, the real lesson is to draft a balanced line-up that produces week in and week out

[Babak]

babak take it easy! carmelo goes off 50p-5r-6a, harrington 41-10 and lee 23-7 in the same game!

Hey, don't short change poor David Lee and his 23 and 10!

[ommy48]

Everyone deals with injuries, usually it balances out by the end of the year for everyone. As far as K-Mart goes, dropping him is without a doubt the worst managerial move of the year up to this point in the entire league. Shahryar took advantage of the gift handed to him on a silver platter, and will reap the big benefits of it in the near future.
Fortunately for you, I dropped Tyreke before Kevin Martin got injured and his numbers were mediocre. There is no way you would be getting those kinds of numbers from him if it weren't for the ironic injury to your own guy K-Mart, right? And don't worry about my guys. In the end, results will ultimately do the talking for us at the end of the season. After all, the real lesson is to draft a balanced line-up that produces week in and week out

Not when you have Monta Ellis who has put up monster numbers ever since that cancer Jackson was traded 5 games ago with these stats the last 3 games: 34,8,6; 37, 6,4; 44, 6,3; 119 points over 20 assists and 20 boards in 3 games.

So no Kmart will not be missed by me in any way shape or form, he would probably ride the pine on my team, especially now that Tyreke Evans has taken control of the Kings and as the PG (my 3 string PG by the way behind Jennings and Harris) will still control the ball for the Kings even when Kmart comes back sometime next year (could be as far away as Feb).

Kmart's injury did two things: it gave evans the chance to solidify his role as the man on a young team, and it means that Kmart will no longer be able to shoot the ball with impunity to avg 31 ppg when he comes back because now Evans will have taken over the role of the #1 guy even when mart returns (in fact trade rumors about Kmart started several weeks ago in earnest now that Evans has shown what he can do).

But c'mon all of this is academic stuff for a pro like you, so i don't know why you would make such blatantly wrong statements like: "dropping Kmart is the single worst managerial decision of this season." when it'll be you who will be ruing the loss of Evans once Baron gets nicked up for 20 games like he usually does at some point every year.

[Babak]

Not when you have Monta Ellis who has put up monster numbers ever since that cancer Jackson was traded 5 games ago with these stats the last 3 games: 34,8,6; 37, 6,4; 44, 6,3; 119 points over 20 assists and 20 boards in 3 games.
So no Kmart will not be missed by me in any way shape or form, he would probably ride the pine on my team, especially now that Tyreke Evans has taken control of the Kings and as the PG (my 3 string PG by the way behind Jennings and Harris) will still control the ball for the Kings even when Kmart comes back sometime next year (could be as far away as Feb).
Kmart's injury did two things: it gave evans the chance to solidify his role as the man on a young team, and it means that Kmart will no longer be able to shoot the ball with impunity to avg 31 ppg when he comes back because now Evans will have taken over the role of the #1 guy even when mart returns (in fact trade rumors about Kmart started several weeks ago in earnest now that Evans has shown what he can do).
But c'mon all of this is academic stuff for a pro like you, so i don't know why you would make such blatantly wrong statements like: "dropping Kmart is the single worst managerial decision of this season." when it'll be you who will be ruing the loss of Evans once Baron gets nicked up for 20 games like he usually does at some point every year.

So let me get this straight: Dropping K-Mart isn't the single worst managerial decision of the year because you have Monta Ellis? Where is the logical connection there? Monta is doing great, but that doesn't change the fact that you made a huge mistake. Expect K-Mart back in the next 5-6 weeks, meaning he'll be back for the entire 2nd half of the season averaging at least 24 a game, if not the 30+ he was averaging before injury.

Tyreke will still be great when K-Mart is back, as you said. But if you think his numbers won't take a noticable hit when K-Mart is back, then you must be delusional.

[Babak]

So no Kmart will not be missed by me in any way shape or form, he would probably ride the pine on my team.

Remember this quote when I bring it back up for everyone to read after K-Mart is in the lineup healthy again. There is a reason he was a consensus 2nd round pick in every fantasy league.

[ommy48]

Remember this quote when I bring it back up for everyone to read after K-Mart is in the lineup healthy again. There is a reason he was a consensus 2nd round pick in every fantasy league.

lol I will, and remember yours because if your predictions don't pan out then rest assured that I will gently remind you of them

btw what happened to the PFDC gold wager for the league title? If we won't have one, then I would love to have a friendly one between me and Babak on the side.

[Babak]

Yea I'm down for a league wager. Something in the 10-25k range should be reasonable and fair for everyone.

ommy, I'm willing to make a side bet with you if you want as well. Obviously, it would be based on overall finish, not regular season finish. Or we can do a wager where one owes the other only if one of us wins it all, since I don't think there's much to brag about if one of us finishes 3rd and the other finishes 4th, for example.

I propose that if I win the title, you give me 30k gold. If you win the title, I give you 30k gold. How does that sound?

[ommy48]

Yea I'm down for a league wager. Something in the 10-25k range should be reasonable and fair for everyone.

ommy, I'm willing to make a side bet with you if you want as well. Obviously, it would be based on overall finish, not regular season finish. Or we can do a wager where one owes the other only if one of us wins it all, since I don't think there's much to brag about if one of us finishes 3rd and the other finishes 4th, for example.

I propose that if I win the title, you give me 30k gold. If you win the title, I give you 30k gold. How does that sound?

Yeah I think a 10K bet from each participant should be added to the overall league pool and will be partitioned to the top 2 finishers (at the very end, not regular season) with say a 90-10 distribution of the funds to the champion and the runner up.


Now for our side bet Babak I propose the following to keep it interesting and juicy:

For each of our two matchups we wager 5K for the winner of that head to head battle (so if we split it during the regular season then it is a wash but if someone wins both weeks then they come out 10K richer). In the event of a tie for that week the full 5K gets awarded to the winner of the other matchup, giving them the full 10K as well.

Now for the overall finish wager I propose that it be 20K, with the person who wins the championship getting the money, and if neither of us gets the championship then the bet is voided as you suggested.

So in total the side bet between us can be 30K if someone wins out.

[Babak]

Yeah I think a 10K bet from each participant should be added to the overall league pool and will be partitioned to the top 2 finishers (at the very end, not regular season) with say a 90-10 distribution of the funds to the champion and the runner up.
Now for our side bet Babak I propose the following to keep it interesting and juicy:
For each of our two matchups we wager 5K for the winner of that head to head battle (so if we split it during the regular season then it is a wash but if someone wins both weeks then they come out 10K richer). In the event of a tie for that week the full 5K gets awarded to the winner of the other matchup, giving them the full 10K as well.
Now for the overall finish wager I propose that it be 20K, with the person who wins the championship getting the money, and if neither of us gets the championship then the bet is voided as you suggested.
So in total the side bet between us can be 30K if someone wins out.

Ok, sounds good.