2009 PFDC Fantasy Basketball League

[Masoud_A]

Teams out of playoff contention can't make trades since it's unfair to those who are in the playoff race.

As long as they are reasonable anyone can trade players untill the deadline.

[MoJo23]

Behzad12 did not bench his players...

[Ghormeh Sabzi]

^^^
yea I suppose your right, I wouldn't mind if a contender made a "fair" trade with someone out of the playoff race but if someone were to offer GhormehSabzi a scrub for someone like Derrick Rose or Ben Gordon, then we have a problem lol

is that a new rule now too

[Demis-11]

^^^

well if its not wanna swap Derrick Rose for my Richard Jefferson

[Babak]

Behzad12 did not bench his players...

Masoud, we need much stricter regulation from here on out by you now that we are reaching playoff time. I thought you were planning on taking responsibility for benching all players when they faced GBBA, after you decided to accept PB's proposal. Now Behzad is up 11-0, and there is no way to undo this with commish tools. How are we going to fix this situation now?

This is exactly the type of situation I was worried about when I said I was against PB's offer, and now we see it has happened. Also, I'm not sure why Chelsea's team was locked from editing his roster while he was playing GBBA, and not unlocked until yesterday, nearly 2 weeks later (even though it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things).

Just a simple reminder to everyone in the league: We are reaching the final phase of this game, everyone please be aware and let's keep things running as smoothly as possible.

[Babak]

As long as they are reasonable anyone can trade players untill the deadline.

Sure, as long as they are "reasonable" and not considered collusion. Someone who has just realized he is out of the playoff race, and then says "trades?" would be considered strong evidence of collusive or improper conduct, since improving his playoff chances, which is ultimate goal of every trade, is not the primary purpose of his agenda.

The unwritten rule is that it's fine for teams out of contention to trade with each other. It's STRONGLY frowned upon for a team in playoff contention to make a trade with a team that has already been eliminated.

[persianbruin]

Sure, as long as they are "reasonable" and not considered collusion. Someone who has just realized he is out of the playoff race, and then says "trades?" would be considered strong evidence of collusive or improper conduct, since improving his playoff chances, which is ultimate goal of every trade, is not the primary purpose of his agenda.
The unwritten rule is that it's fine for teams out of contention to trade with each other. It's STRONGLY frowned upon for a team in playoff contention to make a trade with a team that has already been eliminated.

I agree but I think we should allow this by doing the following:

write the unwritten rule that if more than 2 people object, the trade is vetoed. I know the system is saying "majority" but in this case that should not be enough since some people don't even care to log in and veto the trade

[Babak]

I agree but I think we should allow this by doing the following:
write the unwritten rule that if more than 2 people object, the trade is vetoed. I know the system is saying "majority" but in this case that should not be enough since some people don't even care to log in and veto the trade

Definitely agree. The reasoning behind this rule, rather than the old majority rule, is that teams out of contention no longer have the same incentive/motive as the teams that are in playoff contention. Thus, their vote really doesn't mean as much.

Anyway, I don't foresee that being a problem. Now what do you suggest for us to do to fix this pathetic situation we're in with Behzad up 11-0 against GBBA? What did I tell you was going to happen? You can't retroactively bench Behzad's players, so his 11-0 will stand. And you can't have him lose to another team on purpose to even things out. How do you think me, you, and Mojo, all within 1.5 games of Behzad are supposed to feel about this bullshit?

[Babak]

I can think of only one solution: Masoud needs to immediately bench the rest of Behzad's players for the week. Then he needs to pick up several active players for GBBA to match and tie Behzad as closely as possible (may not be able to get a 5-5, but even a 6-5 is better than an 11-0.

At the end of the week, all the active players will need to be dropped back to the FA pool again.

[persianbruin]

Definitely agree. The reasoning behind this rule, rather than the old majority rule, is that teams out of contention no longer have the same incentive/motive as the teams that are in playoff contention. Thus, their vote really doesn't mean as much.
Anyway, I don't foresee that being a problem. Now what do you suggest for us to do to fix this pathetic situation we're in with Behzad up 11-0 against GBBA? What did I tell you was going to happen? You can't retroactively bench Behzad's players, so his 11-0 will stand. And you can't have him lose to another team on purpose to even things out. How do you think me, you, and Mojo, all within 1.5 games of Behzad are supposed to feel about this bullshit?

I can think of only one solution: Masoud needs to immediately bench the rest of Behzad's players for the week. Then he needs to pick up several active players for GBBA to match and tie Behzad as closely as possible (may not be able to get a 5-5, but even a 6-5 is better than an 11-0.

At the end of the week, all the active players will need to be dropped back to the FA pool again.

I have been thinking about this for 48 hours now but again too lazy to post!!
I even emailed (not just pm here) behzad and still didnt respond. YOu dont have to go through everything babak says even though he is right. Just bench his players and put JR smith in GBBA's lineup and when it gets to around 6-5 or 7-4 advantage for GBBA. Then bench him too. Just benching his players next week is not gonna do any good. THIS week needs to not give him an advantage.


3 thru 7 we are all separated by just a few games!!

EDIT: babak is right, with the players playing today, JR smith is not gonna be enough

[Babak]

Looking to trade one of my centers for either a guard or a forward. All my centers, including David Lee can be had for the right price.

[persianbruin]

glad to see Kobe back. I was hurting! It cost me a few catagories against masoud and mojo.

btw masoud kudos with the Blatche pickup. Babak (for once ) was right! But I am happy with Thornton and with J howard out, it should only get better!

[Babak]

glad to see Kobe back. I was hurting! It cost me a few catagories against masoud and mojo.
btw masoud kudos with the Blatche pickup. Babak (for once ) was right! But I am happy with Thornton and with J howard out, it should only get better!

Wana make a trade? I need to make my team a bit smaller, I'm way too overloaded with the big's like Thompson/Biedrins/Okafor that aren't scoring enough for me, and don't have enough trade value to move.

I'm even willing to take your overhyped losers like K-Mart and old man arthritis Duncan who will inevitably sit out 2-3 big games come championship week to rest up. Send me some offers.

[persianbruin]

Wana make a trade? I need to make my team a bit smaller, I'm way too overloaded with the big's like Thompson/Biedrins/Okafor that aren't scoring enough for me, and don't have enough trade value to move.
I'm even willing to take your overhyped losers like K-Mart and old man arthritis Duncan who will inevitably sit out 2-3 big games come championship week to rest up. Send me some offers.

lol!! dude you should seriously teach marketing. You are a GOD at it!

take your previous post for instance, you indirectly are saying how great Lee is and you are "EVEN" willing to trade him where the truth is that his numbers will drop now that Tmac is there.

and then put down kmart and "arthritic" duncan!!?? Kmart once he settles in is gonna put up huge numbers and duncan has been GREAT all year long. It was just a few games ago where had 26 rebounds in one game. I am good, thank you

[Demis-11]

I think Josh Howard is out for the season, he got banged up v.s. Chicago, pretty crummy since he just got traded