2009 PFDC Fantasy Basketball League

[persianbruin]

Now you are overreacting and exaggerating! Tanking rebounds category to a reasonable extend is fairly easy. Okafor has been under-performing most of this season. He is averaging 10 pts/9.2/1.6 (blocks) this season with 52% FG and 57% FT. He is just another Big guy on a small team who doesnt need much skills and athleticism to get the rbs while IGUODOLA is a star and just short of an All-star. I dont think any of the semi-finalists have any slot to consider someone like Okafor for their next move but thats not definitely the case for Iguoldola. I know I would 100% add him if I hadnt reached the moves limit.

as someone who has had iggy for a couple of months now, I am telling you, he has been underperforming big time. every now and then he has a big game. Okafor, if he is so bad, why did babak pick him up again?

[Babak]

as someone who has had iggy for a couple of months now, I am telling you, he has been underperforming big time. every now and then he has a big game. Okafor, if he is so bad, why did babak pick him up again?

Shahryar, the real question is if Okafor is so good, why was I able to pick him off FA again after I dropped him without a single person putting out a waiver claim for him? You are a smart guy, please don't play stupid here. There's a reason not one person decided to pick him up. Go look at his numbers, and you'll realize that you can pick up atleast 10 other guys off FA who will give you comparable stats.

Dropping Iguodala, who EVERY single person in this league will put a waiver out for is WRONG. You should have had the decency to realize that when your season is probably over, you shouldn't be altering the balance of power by handing Demis a free 2nd round pick! But then again, none of us are stupid, and realize that the way you see it is that if you aren't going to win, you might as well make sure that Demis wins since he is a nice Greek guy who is humble and doesn't talk shit, right? You really crossed the line with that move, and I'm sure you realize it.

You could have dropped Frye instead, and then dropped the guy who you picked up for Frye the next day to get the extra game. Basically you dropped Iguodala to save ONE move. Do you think it was worth it to drop Iguodala to save one move? If you win this week, you keep Iguodala. If you lose, at least you didn't shit on the league by dropping a 2nd rounder to Demis for free.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out some basic logic like that. Shame, shame. Of all people in this league, I didn't expect you to be the one engaging in shady moves like that after realizing you had lost.

[persianbruin]

Shahryar, the real question is if Okafor is so good, why was I able to pick him off FA again after I dropped him without a single person putting out a waiver claim for him? You are a smart guy, please don't play stupid here. There's a reason not one person decided to pick him up. Go look at his numbers, and you'll realize that you can pick up atleast 10 other guys off FA who will give you comparable stats.
Dropping Iguodala, who EVERY single person in this league will put a waiver out for is WRONG. You should have had the decency to realize that when your season is probably over, you shouldn't be altering the balance of power by handing Demis a free 2nd round pick! But then again, none of us are stupid, and realize that the way you see it is that if you aren't going to win, you might as well make sure that Demis wins since he is a nice Greek guy who is humble and doesn't talk shit, right? You really crossed the line with that move, and I'm sure you realize it.
You could have dropped Frye instead, and then dropped the guy who you picked up for Frye the next day to get the extra game. Basically you dropped Iguodala to save ONE move. Do you think it was worth it to drop Iguodala to save one move? If you win this week, you keep Iguodala. If you lose, at least you didn't shit on the league by dropping a 2nd rounder to Demis for free.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out some basic logic like that. Shame, shame. Of all people in this league, I didn't expect you to be the one engaging in shady moves like that after realizing you had lost.

First of all, I woulda just shaken my head like last year about my bad luck exactly when the playoffs started and woulda accepted the defeat if you were a normal person. But you are NOT! YOu keep trash talking and throw your skills into my face where god knows how much of yours is coming from which websites! At least I make my own decisions. You still dont get it, do you? It has nothing to do with losing or wininning. I am just tired of your nonstop k0sosher.
YOu keep bragging but the minute your matchup started against me, with all of my injuries and none on your part, you started adding and dropping players so you must realize how tokhmi your team is (the same way I did) otherwise, why would you add and drop players?
The reason nobody picked up Okafor is that: you made sure (and go back and read that BS you said when you dropped him) that you trashed him before dropping him to ensure nobody was going to pick him but the truth was that NO was having any games for a few days and you were feeling intimidated by me so you wanted to get some points and you thought: ok so if I pick a player for each on one of those days that he is not playing the stats will be better than his and when nobody else picked him up PRECESELY for the same reason you dropped him, you loved it and picked him up again and now you are using it as evidence which is pure BS since you would not have picked him up to begin with

Masoud ham ageh 35 movesh tamoom nashodeh bood alan enghad post nemikard!

I DIDNT CARE about next week anymore. I just cared about this week and its all becasue of YOU! In terms of performance, iggy was not even in my top5 players so please dont compare him to big al and that MVP candidate Durant, masoud! Kobe, Martin, Duncan, Curry, Butler, Gasol were all giving me better numbers than AI. Dont exaggerate his importance

[Babak]

I think the fairest solution to the problem is that nobody picks up Iguodala. This is exactly the reason we lock the eliminated teams, to avoid fishy dropping of valuable players in order to benefit certain teams.

I don't think there is an ounce of doubt in anyone's mind that Shahryar's thinking was that if he's going to lose, he might as well make sure as hell that Demis wins, knowing full well that he had the #1 waiver.

We've done a good job so far this year of correcting the mistakes and keeping things running as smoothly and fairly as possible. Let's keep things that way. I know Demis doesn't want an asterisk next to his name should he pick up Iguodala and end up unfairly winning a tainted league like that.

[persianbruin]

I think the fairest solution to the problem is that nobody picks up Iguodala. This is exactly the reason we lock the eliminated teams, to avoid fishy dropping of valuable players in order to benefit certain teams.

I don't think there is an ounce of doubt in anyone's mind that Shahryar's thinking was that if he's going to lose, he might as well make sure as hell that Demis wins, knowing full well that he had the #1 waiver. We've done a good job so far this year of correcting the mistakes and keeping things running as smoothly and fairly as possible. Let's keep things that way. I know Demis doesn't want an asterisk next to his name should he pick up Iguodala and end up unfairly winning a tainted league like that.

absolutely 100% wrong! I didnt even look at waiver priority until I saw people biitchin around. Demis isnt my cousin and doesn't need my help to win! He can handle you guys (and myself) all by himself. I just wanted to have more guys the last few days so "I" could win. Thats it. If I wanted to "help" him win don't you think I woulda dropped Kobe or stephan curry!?

and if you guys think iggy is an allstar by all means dont pick him up. See if I care!

[Babak]

absolutely 100% wrong! I didnt even look at waiver priority until I saw people biitchin around. Demis isnt my cousin and doesn't need my help to win! He can handle you guys (and myself) all by himself. I just wanted to have more guys the last few days so "I" could win. Thats it. If I wanted to "help" him win don't you think I woulda dropped Kobe or stephan curry!?
and if you guys think iggy is an allstar by all means dont pick him up. See if I care!

I highly doubt that, but if that's what you truly believe, forgive me and don't take it personally when I say you must be an absolute idiot.

You wanted more games? You could've dropped Frye, and then dropped the guy you picked up for him to get an extra game the next day. Someone who is trying to "win" will spare 1 extra move to hold on to Iguodala in case he advances to the next round. I can't imagine that a smart guy like yourself could become this unbelievably stupid out of nowhere.

Either way, whether it was your honest belief, or just absolute pure stupidity, the rest of the league should not have to pay the price for your move. So far, all the rest of the teams in the playoffs agree as well. I'm waiting to see what Demis has to say about this before we proceed.

Playing fantasy basketball is supposed to be fun, fair and sports man like. It shouldn't feel like we are trying to regulate a bunch of corrupt charlatans. Unfortunately, we've had to deal with too many less than honest situations like this all year.

[persianbruin]

I highly doubt that, but if that's what you truly believe, forgive me and don't take it personally when I say you must be an absolute idiot.
You wanted more games? You could've dropped Frye, and then dropped the guy you picked up for him to get an extra game the next day. Someone who is trying to "win" will spare 1 extra move to hold on to Iguodala in case he advances to the next round. I can't imagine that a smart guy like yourself could become this unbelievably stupid out of nowhere.
Either way, whether it was your honest belief, or just absolute pure stupidity, the rest of the league should not have to pay the price for your move. So far, all the rest of the teams in the playoffs agree as well. I'm waiting to see what Demis has to say about this before we proceed.
Playing fantasy basketball is supposed to be fun, fair and sports man like. It shouldn't feel like we are trying to regulate a bunch of corrupt charlatans. Unfortunately, we've had to deal with too many less than honest situations like this all year.

then I am an idiot. Are you happy now? The combination of your "excessive" trash talking and dropping Okafor who to me meant all the bets were off at that point, just did it. Winning the league dropped in priority and winning THIS week became the ultimate goal. I am not your other buddies in other leagues. I don't appreciate that attitude

[Babak]

then I am an idiot. Are you happy now? The combination of your "excessive" trash talking and dropping Okafor who to me meant all the bets were off at that point, just did it. Winning the league dropped in priority and winning THIS week became the ultimate goal. I am not your other buddies in other leagues. I don't appreciate that attitude

If telling you how it is is considered "attitude", then so be it. I don't care who anybody in this league is, if you do something immoral or wrong, I will say what's on my mind. There is no party bazi here.

Anyway, I'm done arguing with you because this is going nowhere, and at this point you just don't make sense any more.

[Babak]

After a bit of research, problem is solved:

"Can't Cut" List
A number of the best players in the game will be on this list throughout the season. When a player is on the list, he cannot be waived from a team under any circumstances. The "Can't Cut" list, which will be updated when necessary, will prevent managers at the bottom of the standings from changing the league dynamics by waiving all of their outstanding players.

http://basketball.fantasysports.yaho...ls/cantcutlist

Andre Iguodala is currently on the Yahoo default "Can't Cut" list. However, I just checked our league settings, and when Masoud made the original league, he changed our league setting for "Cant Cut" list provider from "Yahoo Sports default" to "none", which allowed any player, including Lebron, Durant, Kobe, etc. to be dropped.

We are supposed to be playing based on last year's league settings, which had the "Cant Cut" list. Therefore, Shahryar's move will be reversed while the original Yahoo "Can't Cut" list will be implemented again.

If anybody objects to this, now is the time to voice your opinion.

[MoJo23]

I don't think there is an ounce of doubt in anyone's mind that Shahryar's thinking was that if he's going to lose, he might as well make sure as hell that Demis wins, knowing full well that he had the #1 waiver.

Let's not go too far now. I'm sure he did NOT do this in to "help" Demis in any shape or form. He wanted the most available games and that was his only option.

BUT PB, igi is just too good of a player and that would easily give someone else an unfair advantage! Yahoo agrees with us as well hence why he's on the "can't cut list"

[Masoud_A]

After a bit of research, problem is solved:

"Can't Cut" List
A number of the best players in the game will be on this list throughout the season. When a player is on the list, he cannot be waived from a team under any circumstances. The "Can't Cut" list, which will be updated when necessary, will prevent managers at the bottom of the standings from changing the league dynamics by waiving all of their outstanding players.

http://basketball.fantasysports.yaho...ls/cantcutlist

Andre Iguodala is currently on the Yahoo default "Can't Cut" list. However, I just checked our league settings, and when Masoud made the original league, he changed our league setting for "Cant Cut" list provider from "Yahoo Sports default" to "none", which allowed any player, including Lebron, Durant, Kobe, etc. to be dropped.

We are supposed to be playing based on last year's league settings, which had the "Cant Cut" list. Therefore, Shahryar's move will be reversed while the original Yahoo "Can't Cut" list will be implemented again.

If anybody objects to this, now is the time to voice your opinion.

deha to dobare gir K!ri dadi be man? Man vaghti dorost kardam leaguero cant cut list dorost bood, badesh Mojo va to oomadid ghor zadin ke folanio chera nemitoonam drop konam chon roo cant cut liste, khodetoonam az man khastin ke varesh daram manam bad az shorooe league baresh dashtam. Hala vase inke berini be ma miai doroogh migi?

Nov 18 8:42pmCan't Cut List changed from 'Yahoo! Sports' to 'None'
Masoud G

[Babak]

deha to dobare gir K!ri dadi be man? Man vaghti dorost kardam leaguero cant cut list dorost bood, badesh Mojo va to oomadid ghor zadin ke folanio chera nemitoonam drop konam chon roo cant cut liste, khodetoonam az man khastin ke varesh daram manam bad az shorooe league baresh dashtam. Hala vase inke berini be ma miai doroogh migi?

Have I ever once lied or been wrong about anything in the 2 year history of our league before?

You tell or show me when or where I ever complained about not being able to drop a certain player. I will legally change my name to Sakineh tomorrow if you can do that.

Hichkas beh to gir nadadeh. However, I will say that the current settings of the league (8 teams making playoffs, removal of "Can't Cut" list) is significantly different than the "same settings as last year" that was initially announced to begin our season. Right Masoud?

[Babak]

I think I should charge Shahryar for the lesson I taught him this week on behalf of "the greatest to have ever played this game". Hopefully he took good notes in preparation for next year. Kicking somebody's ass year after year gets boring after a while.

[Masoud_A]

Have I ever once lied or been wrong about anything in the 2 year history of our league before?

You tell or show me when or where I ever complained about not being able to drop a certain player. I will legally change my name to Sakineh tomorrow if you can do that.

Hichkas beh to gir nadadeh. However, I will say that the current settings of the league (8 teams making playoffs, removal of "Can't Cut" list) is significantly different than the "same settings as last year" that was initially announced to begin our season. Right Masoud?

boro in k0ssheraro bara yeki begoo ke kharidaresh bashe, As I said Mojo complained about it and you asked me to fix it and I did. thats all I say on the subject since the amount of BS running around is suffocating.

[persianbruin]

I think I should charge Shahryar for the lesson I taught him this week on behalf of "the greatest to have ever played this game". Hopefully he took good notes in preparation for next year. Kicking somebody's ass year after year gets boring after a while.

you got lucky that for the second year in a row I had injuries. Kevin martin didnt play. Al thornton didnt play. Marc Gasol didnt play.

and the part about me wanting to help demis was laughable cuz honestly and I am not just trash talking like you are. I am saying what I truly believe:

demis, ommy and masoud's newly constructed team are all better than yours. I never thought you had even an ounce of chance to win which is why I was surprised at what demis was saying. You'll join me next week

plus the whole no cut list thing is only forpart of the biginning of the league, dont blame it on masoud