The Kobe Thread

[persianbruin]

Both.

my kinda guy you follow college sports too? if so who do you like?

[bezan kenar]

my kinda guy you follow college sports too? if so who do you like?

I really only follow Georgetown Hoyas in basketball. What about you?

[persianbruin]

the bruins. I like the hoyas too. Both my brother and sister went to Georgetown

[Masoud_A]

Hamino kam dashtim ye PBie dige

[persianbruin]

Hamino kam dashtim ye PBie dige

lol

[Babak]

Maybe its time for Masoud to make "The Lebron Thread".

[EKBATAN]

as much as i like kobe, he just showed over the years that he is not MJ, neither is lebron, wade is the next best thing. Kobe and lebron show too much of their emotion and frustration, where jordan and wade are more of the calm confident type.

Kobe definitely cant play good if u put a good defender on him, if a player sticks to him, he wont make his shots and will get frustrated. If he doesnt figure out how to fix this then i doubt lakers will win another championship this year.

[persianbruin]

as much as i like kobe, he just showed over the years that he is not MJ, neither is lebron, wade is the next best thing. Kobe and lebron show too much of their emotion and frustration, where jordan and wade are more of the calm confident type.
Kobe definitely cant play good if u put a good defender on him, if a player sticks to him, he wont make his shots and will get frustrated. If he doesnt figure out how to fix this then i doubt lakers will win another championship this year.

You are saying wade is better than Kobe. are you ok !? lol If Kobe is no jordan he is the next best thing and there is nobody even close to him. Lebron's style is different so you can't even compare him to those two. He is more Magic Johnson.
jordan never had to face so much criticism or play with a bunch of d-leagers at the peak of his career. If someone had to plan for a career MJ had it the PERFECT way. when he was young he shot and shot and shot while his game got better and when he reached the top in terms of potential he got surrounded by great teammates and a great coach. Kobe at his peak in 04 through 07 had to play with a bunch of rookies and players who are not even in the league anymore cuz they weren't good enough to even be on the bench and then HE got criticized for it
and Wade more indifferent not calm. There is a difference!! To him its not important if he is the best player in the league. To Kobe and MJ it was all that mattered

[persianbruin]

I really only follow Georgetown Hoyas in basketball. What about you?

iransoccer jaan, I know you can read this message here so I didn't tell anyone and as I said to you through PM last night, when you come back the next time first of all use a different IP address and secondly, dont be so obvious with teams and players you support. Again, I mean who supports the lakers AND georgetown? If I could trick you like that I am sure the mods could do as well. See you under a different name soon!

[EKBATAN]

You are saying wade is better than Kobe. are you ok !? lol If Kobe is no jordan he is the next best thing and there is nobody even close to him. Lebron's style is different so you can't even compare him to those two. He is more Magic Johnson.
jordan never had to face so much criticism or play with a bunch of d-leagers at the peak of his career. If someone had to plan for a career MJ had it the PERFECT way. when he was young he shot and shot and shot while his game got better and when he reached the top in terms of potential he got surrounded by great teammates and a great coach. Kobe at his peak in 04 through 07 had to play with a bunch of rookies and players who are not even in the league anymore cuz they weren't good enough to even be on the bench and then HE got criticized for it
and Wade more indifferent not calm. There is a difference!! To him its not important if he is the best player in the league. To Kobe and MJ it was all that mattered

aziz, those are excuses, jordan was 35 when he won his last championship in 98, kobe is only 31 right now, u cant say his prime was 04-07 and phil jackson was both their coach, kobe also enjoyed the same type of good players, bulls really only had pippen as a good player, the rest were mediocre, they just had good chemistry. Kobe played with the most dominant center of all time while jordan never played with a good center. Its true that kobe is the next best so i dont really know what you're arguing against. lol he's just not good when he's on a bad role, he cant escape it, either he's on a good role or a bad one, MJ was able to snap out of it, he hardly had like 2 bad games in a row

[arash123]

lol you guys, when playoff time comes....your daddy, the lakers, will take the crown again. now enjoy the "heatles" winning the pitiful eastern conference and ill make my money like i have the past two years and bet the lakers. 3peat baby

[persianbruin]

aziz, those are excuses, jordan was 35 when he won his last championship in 98, kobe is only 31 right now, u cant say his prime was 04-07 and phil jackson was both their coach, kobe also enjoyed the same type of good players, bulls really only had pippen as a good player, the rest were mediocre, they just had good chemistry. Kobe played with the most dominant center of all time while jordan never played with a good center. Its true that kobe is the next best so i dont really know what you're arguing against. lol he's just not good when he's on a bad role, he cant escape it, either he's on a good role or a bad one, MJ was able to snap out of it, he hardly had like 2 bad games in a row

Its not age its mileage. Kobe came into the league as an 18 year old. He already has more minutes than MJ in the playoffs. He is 5th among active players in terms of minutes played. and unlike MJ, he never took any time off to rest his body

Minutes played in regular season:

Michael Jordan 41010
Kobe Bryant 38486

Minutes played in playoffs:

Michael Jordan 7474
Kobe Bryant 7811

as you can see Kobe already exceeds MJ in playoff mileage and considering nobody counts those wizard years towards MJ's greatness, Kobe has more minutes in that catagory too and he is only 31!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that takes its toll on your body and we can see the signs from him. There is no rest period for him so the body in the long run will give up faster.

I am still not saying Kobe is better than MJ but to say wade is better than kobe, come on ekki!,

[persianbruin]

also horace grant was not mediocre. He was a top 5 power forward. Toni Kukoc wasn't mediocre. Dennis rodman is the best rebounder this league has seen since the days of wilt. Dennis was da man!!

The only mediocre thing were the bulls opponents in those 6 championship series all of whom would have had their butts whooped by a 2010 boston celtic team or a 2011 spurs/miami/boston team. remember its all relative!

[EKBATAN]

Its not age its mileage. Kobe came into the league as an 18 year old. He already has more minutes than MJ in the playoffs. He is 5th among active players in terms of minutes played. and unlike MJ, he never took any time off to rest his body

Minutes played in regular season:

Michael Jordan 41010
Kobe Bryant 38486

Minutes played in playoffs:

Michael Jordan 7474
Kobe Bryant 7811

as you can see Kobe already exceeds MJ in playoff mileage and considering nobody counts those wizard years towards MJ's greatness, Kobe has more minutes in that catagory too and he is only 31!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that takes its toll on your body and we can see the signs from him. There is no rest period for him so the body in the long run will give up faster.

I am still not saying Kobe is better than MJ but to say wade is better than kobe, come on ekki!,

good rebuttal but more playoff min. doesnt necessary mean a good thing, that just means they finished off teams in more games than bulls did jordan's team hardly went to 7 games or overtimes

and taking a break isnt good, takes u out of your game and took MJ less than a year to make a comeback to where he was

[persianbruin]

good rebuttal but more playoff min. doesnt necessary mean a good thing, that just means they finished off teams in more games than bulls did jordan's team hardly went to 7 games or overtimes
and taking a break isnt good, takes u out of your game and took MJ less than a year to make a comeback to where he was

regarding them finishing teams off faster please refer to where I compared bulls opponents to the lakers or any other team in this era for that matter and more minutes means more playoff experience. Remember Kobe went to a contender so from day one it was playoffs playoffs playoffs and again he is nowhere close to being done