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    #31
    La Liga only has Real madrid and Barcelona....the rest of the teams are boring to watch, come on....


    EPL; when was the last time a bottom table team beat a top tier? i know it happens but very rare....like someone said when liverpoll can still stay in top 4 after all their injuries and problems and a teenage team like arsenal can be in top spot, then that speaks for itself...

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      #32
      ^^^ when was the last time someone won serie a except inter? i think it's been like 6 years if you count in this season too since they have already won

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        #33
        Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
        ^^^ when was the last time someone won serie a except inter? i think it's been like 6 years if you count in this season too since they have already won

        thats not a fair comparison, 2 of them were handed to them and the 3rd came because JUVE was in serie B and teams like milan and fiorentina were deducted bunch of points...so inter has really only won it the last few years...before that it was early 90s


        anyway, my rating is as follows;

        1) EPL & SERIE A
        2) La Liga
        3) Bundesliga
        4) French league

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          #34
          Originally posted by elnino99 View Post
          oo really?
          mayeb that's why English clubs have been dominating CL semis in the past 4-5 year
          definitely a decline

          They won twice in the past 10 years...one in penalties, the other very controvertial...


          1999-00 Real Madrid
          2000-01 Bayern Munich
          2001-02 Real Madrid
          2002-03 Milan
          2003-04 Porto
          2004-05 Liverpool
          2005-06 Barcelona
          2006-07 Milan
          2007-08 Manchester U
          2008-09 Barcelona

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            #35
            Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
            thats not a fair comparison, 2 of them were handed to them and the 3rd came because JUVE was in serie B and teams like milan and fiorentina were deducted bunch of points...so inter has really only won it the last few years...before that it was early 90s
            anyway, my rating is as follows;
            1) EPL & SERIE A
            2) La Liga
            3) Bundesliga
            4) French league
            Milan were deducted 15 points, and finished 26 behind inter, so even without the point deduction, inter would have won.

            the ones that were handed to them they would've won if juve and milan hadn't bought refs so that doesn't really matter, in the end the deserving team got the titles

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              #36
              Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
              They won twice in the past 10 years...one in penalties, the other very controvertial...


              1999-00 Real Madrid
              2000-01 Bayern Munich
              2001-02 Real Madrid
              2002-03 Milan
              2003-04 Porto
              2004-05 Liverpool
              2005-06 Barcelona
              2006-07 Milan
              2007-08 Manchester U
              2008-09 Barcelona
              yeh but one match is often not a true reflection of a teams excellence.. thats why there are league championships. Anyway I think you'll that the past 5 years since liverpool -ac theres been an english team in every final and an all-english final and semi-finals. It shows the superiority of the english game against continental leagues.

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                #37
                Originally posted by 1Heesham1 View Post
                yeh but one match is often not a true reflection of a teams excellence.. thats why there are league championships. Anyway I think you'll that the past 5 years since liverpool -ac theres been an english team in every final and an all-english final and semi-finals. It shows the superiority of the english game against continental leagues.

                in the final but in the last 4 there has always been an italian or spanish team too

                which is why i dont agree with the reasoning cuz u can say the same about the other leagues too, CL performance of ONE team doesnt justify the WHOLE league...look at UEFA league for ex, where are the english teams there?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
                  Milan were deducted 15 points, and finished 26 behind inter, so even without the point deduction, inter would have won.
                  the ones that were handed to them they would've won if juve and milan hadn't bought refs so that doesn't really matter, in the end the deserving team got the titles

                  just cuz a team came 2nd doesnt mean they still would've if the match fixing didnt happen. The whole table would've been different. Also, same time these match fixings were going on, those italian teams like juve and milan still made it far in CL and NONE of the players were put on trial for any of it meaning they werent aware. So its not that they didnt deserve to be up there cuz they still did good in CL which had no match fixing (as far as we know )

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
                    in the final but in the last 4 there has always been an italian or spanish team too
                    which is why i dont agree with the reasoning cuz u can say the same about the other leagues too, CL performance of ONE team doesnt justify the WHOLE league...look at UEFA league for ex, where are the english teams there?
                    Why? I think that when theres a majority of a particular league in the final 4 of the cl, it signifies superiority. You don't agree ?


                    I think theres the same number of english as there are spanish teams in the europa league.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by 1Heesham1 View Post
                      Why? I think that when theres a majority of a particular league in the final 4 of the cl, it signifies superiority. You don't agree ?
                      I think theres the same number of english as there are spanish teams in the europa league.

                      same # of teams from italy, spain, england and germany but most of them dont do good, especially the english teams, im not an expert on stats but i cant remember them going far, mostly russian teams do pretty good, spanish teams sometimes

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
                        La Liga only has Real madrid and Barcelona....the rest of the teams are boring to watch, come on....
                        EPL; when was the last time a bottom table team beat a top tier? i know it happens but very rare....like someone said when liverpoll can still stay in top 4 after all their injuries and problems and a teenage team like arsenal can be in top spot, then that speaks for itself...
                        Read my post in page 2.

                        Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
                        in the final but in the last 4 there has always been an italian or spanish team too
                        which is why i dont agree with the reasoning cuz u can say the same about the other leagues too, CL performance of ONE team doesnt justify the WHOLE league...look at UEFA league for ex, where are the english teams there?
                        Why not? The top four teams in EPL have been close to winning the tournament in the last 5 years atleast. Arsenal going to the final and lost to barca, and last year semi-finalist. Chelsea 6 year consecutive semis in a row, and one final which they lost. Utd two finals been to.. and also , Liverpool won it in 05 and lost the year after..
                        I've learnt it's not what you have in your life, but who you have in your life that counts

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
                          in the final but in the last 4 there has always been an italian or spanish team too
                          which is why i dont agree with the reasoning cuz u can say the same about the other leagues too, CL performance of ONE team doesnt justify the WHOLE league...look at UEFA league for ex, where are the english teams there?
                          uefa league is a joke, it's the losers cup lol. fullham got past the group stage by only playing reserve players

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                            #43
                            serie a is so boring
                            all italian teams play the most boring football, they are all so conservative in their tactics. almost all the games are boring and there is no competition, inter wins every year; even in supposedly the biggest derby in the world, milan couldn't challenge inter with a man advantage most of the game. Also, attendance is poor in serie a. When was the last time u watched serie a and the stadium was full??? all the seats are empty!! Another thing, serie a doesn't have the best facilities: a lot of the teams have bleachers in their stadiums!
                            I think EPL is definitely the best to watch. any team can beat any team, and the football is exciting. After all, football is entertainment and the purpose of it is to entertain, and EPL does that best.
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by kapenak View Post
                              serie a is so boring
                              all italian teams play the most boring football, they are all so conservative in their tactics. almost all the games are boring and there is no competition, inter wins every year; even in supposedly the biggest derby in the world, milan couldn't challenge inter with a man advantage most of the game. Also, attendance is poor in serie a. When was the last time u watched serie a and the stadium was full??? all the seats are empty!! Another thing, serie a doesn't have the best facilities: a lot of the teams have bleachers in their stadiums!
                              I think EPL is definitely the best to watch. any team can beat any team, and the football is exciting. After all, football is entertainment and the purpose of it is to entertain, and EPL does that best.

                              u dont watch serie A then, look at the score lines every week, so much scoring, but look at EPL scores from today
                              just cuz they play GOOD defense doesnt mean its boring, its just that competition is higher
                              attendance is low cuz people are boycotting them cuz its so expensive for tix

                              but yes their facilities arent as good as england, overall serie A is not what it used to be in 90s where it was the best in the world without a doubt, they dont spend as much as england and spain but eventually they'll go down too cuz of over spending and debts, so everything takes its turn.

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                                #45
                                today we all witness the most boring game of EPL, the game worse than Afghanistan league quality.

                                Wolves vs. Liverpool, disgrace to EPL, I apologize all the PL fans and 90 minutes of my life

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