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    #16
    To be honest, Is he really as great as everybody says he is?

    His Holland team were poor in 1996. South Korea needed some lucky refereeing decisions to get through in 2002. Russia only got to Euro 2008 because England shot themselves in the foot against Croatia. England had a poor manager. He did nothing at Fenerbahce, nothing at Real Madrid, nothing at Valencia... He was okay at Chelsea, but with the players Chelsea have, any person can manage..

    Don't get me wrong, you need a bit of luck in football, but I think Hiddink has been a very lucky manager. I don't know if he's the answer for Turkey going through to the Euro2012..
    I've learnt it's not what you have in your life, but who you have in your life that counts

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      #17
      Originally posted by HuSsAiN View Post
      To be honest, Is he really as great as everybody says he is?

      His Holland team were poor in 1996. South Korea needed some lucky refereeing decisions to get through in 2002. Russia only got to Euro 2008 because England shot themselves in the foot against Croatia. England had a poor manager. He did nothing at Fenerbahce, nothing at Real Madrid, nothing at Valencia... He was okay at Chelsea, but with the players Chelsea have, any person can manage..

      Don't get me wrong, you need a bit of luck in football, but I think Hiddink has been a very lucky manager. I don't know if he's the answer for Turkey going through to the Euro2012..
      were you even born in 1996? yes he is easily the worlds best coach. if anyone can manage chelsea, how come scolari who has won the world cup ****ed up with them?

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        #18
        Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
        were you even born in 1996? yes he is easily the worlds best coach. if anyone can manage chelsea, how come scolari who has won the world cup ****ed up with them?

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          #19
          Originally posted by elnino99 View Post
          worlds best national team coach*

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            #20
            damn i was hoping he'd go to Juve for next season



            why did he take on a team that didnt make the world cup?

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              #21
              ^^^ because no team that has made the world cup will change their manager just 5 months before the wc

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                #22
                Originally posted by HuSsAiN View Post
                To be honest, Is he really as great as everybody says he is?

                His Holland team were poor in 1996. South Korea needed some lucky refereeing decisions to get through in 2002. Russia only got to Euro 2008 because England shot themselves in the foot against Croatia. England had a poor manager. He did nothing at Fenerbahce, nothing at Real Madrid, nothing at Valencia... He was okay at Chelsea, but with the players Chelsea have, any person can manage..

                Don't get me wrong, you need a bit of luck in football, but I think Hiddink has been a very lucky manager. I don't know if he's the answer for Turkey going through to the Euro2012..
                He's called Lucky Guus for a reason.

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                  #23
                  Way too much money.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
                    ^^^ because no team that has made the world cup will change their manager just 5 months before the wc
                    Actually he could have gone to Ivory Coast, Nigeria and North Korea. He still might btw.
                    Last edited by Amin_; 02-17-2010, 02:02 PM.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
                      were you even born in 1996? yes he is easily the worlds best coach. if anyone can manage chelsea, how come scolari who has won the world cup ****ed up with them?
                      Nope, i was not born in 1996, but i have heard he wasn't that good with Holland.. Thats your opinion.

                      With Scholari, he did start few games well, but then faded away, because of dispute with few of his key players like Drogba,Ballack etc, and his whole team spirit went. Team spirit and morale is key to a teams sucess. Scholari is a great coach, look at Portugal and Brazil, however managing clubs is different..
                      plus Avram Grant was also good with Chelsea, 5 cm away from Champions League final, and 2 points away from a league title...
                      does that mean he is a world class manager?
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                        #26
                        do you really base a manager's skill on something you've "heard" about something that happened before you were even born? lol. i wasn't really old back then, but i saw holland in WC98(i was 8yrsold) and they made it to the semi finals where they lost to brazil on penalties..how is that bad?

                        avram grant isn't s world class coach but he is alot better than what he gets credit for..

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by chuck bass View Post
                          do you really base a manager's skill on something you've "heard" about something that happened before you were even born? lol. i wasn't really old back then, but i saw holland in WC98(i was 8yrsold) and they made it to the semi finals where they lost to brazil on penalties..how is that bad?

                          avram grant isn't s world class coach but he is alot better than what he gets credit for..
                          No, I base something on what i see and Hiddink is not what everyone makes him out to be. Just my opinion. I think the term 'world-class' is getting mis-used.
                          I've learnt it's not what you have in your life, but who you have in your life that counts

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by HuSsAiN View Post
                            No, I base something on what i see and Hiddink is not what everyone makes him out to be. Just my opinion. I think the term 'world-class' is getting mis-used.
                            You conviniently forget he took Holland to the semi finals of WC98 to lose unluckily against Brazil after penalty kicks?

                            Also 96 turned out a 'failure' because there was a certain divide between the black and white players in the team.

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                              #29
                              You also forget he took PSV Eindhoven to winning the Champions league in '89 and the Semi finals in '04/'05 losing away 2-0 and winning 3-1 home against AC milan.

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                                #30
                                This should make turkey much better, hes a fair coach and gives opportunities where he sees them, while it doesnt guarentee success, hes a better fit than stubborn Terim
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