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Originally posted by HuSsAiN View PostJi-Sung Park has scored against Arsenal, AC Milan and Liverpool this season. Not bad for an 'overrated' player, like some people here think.
Asian player that is in United lineup almost always is surely not overrated. He was MOTM against liverpool imo.
GRACIAS PEP
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Originally posted by HuSsAiN View PostJi-Sung Park has scored against Arsenal, AC Milan and Liverpool this season. Not bad for an 'overrated' player, like some people here think.
When someone is being fed a ball on a silver platter, they SHOULD score. As I mentioned before, he missed an absolute sitter in the first half, so he re-deemed himself with that goal. Daei, Nakamura, and Mahdavikia have all scored against important sides in the Champion's League (I would take the Juve team that Mehdi played against ANY DAY over the Milan side that Park played against, he also scored against a very strong Deportivo La Coruna and assisted throughout the tourney)...so what's your point? The most important goal Park ever scored was in the UEFA Cup Final for PSV, which is why he is in ManUtd. today.
Again, just making the case for "over-rated." He is a great player by Asian standards, but at the world level he is simply good.
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man utd did not deserve to win. getting a penalty that should have been a freekick!!! torres missing two chances he usually scores for fun.
btw the ref sucked for both teams but benefited man utd a bit more as there was that idiotic kickback by fletcher when he gave away a foul and and then gave the ball away to kuyt and then kicked him in a very unprofessional way who tried to play on. yellow card at least for that one. G Neville, yes it was an accident but it was dangerous therefore yellow card. I know these don't really play a factor in the game but you could tell Liverpool were furious by the ref.
btw I'm not biased at all, this is coming from an Arsenal fan who doesn't like Liverpool FC at all and because of the ref decisions recently such as the unnecessary red card to vermaelen, I've been seeing ongoing bad ref decisions this season
good job Park and Man Utd but they beat a very mediocre Liverpool side who didn't look too good attacking and when they did, they came close. Manu did dominate the possession but didn't really test reina that much apart from Park's goal. but I guess they were playing it safe after they were 2-1 ahead.
MARK MY WORDS. Man Utd will drop points, though next week they should beat bolton away.
-3rd April. Man Utd vs Chelsea (90% draw in my opinion)
BIG DISADVANTAGE to Man Utd is that 30th April vs Bayern away and then 6th April Bayern at home.
-11th April away at Blackburn who drew Chelsea and are looking solid (Manu should win but if they don't play well, Blackburn will punish them)
-17th April vs Man City AWAY. we all know about this hardcore derby.
I'm too lazy to look into the rest but Man Utd has a very tough tough few weeks coming up and how they're going to rest players for the big chelsea game since they will be playing Bayern away is going to be interesting. Any sort of team, even Barca will drop points in a schedule like this as theyre playing tough teams in the same week of a crucial CL quarter.
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Originally posted by Farhad-7 View Postman utd did not deserve to win. getting a penalty that should have been a freekick!!! torres missing two chances he usually scores for fun.
btw the ref sucked for both teams but benefited man utd a bit more as there was that idiotic kickback by fletcher when he gave away a foul and and then gave the ball away to kuyt and then kicked him in a very unprofessional way who tried to play on. yellow card at least for that one. G Neville, yes it was an accident but it was dangerous therefore yellow card. I know these don't really play a factor in the game but you could tell Liverpool were furious by the ref.
btw I'm not biased at all, this is coming from an Arsenal fan who doesn't like Liverpool FC at all and because of the ref decisions recently such as the unnecessary red card to vermaelen, I've been seeing ongoing bad ref decisions this season
good job Park and Man Utd but they beat a very mediocre Liverpool side who didn't look too good attacking and when they did, they came close. Manu did dominate the possession but didn't really test reina that much apart from Park's goal. but I guess they were playing it safe after they were 2-1 ahead.
MARK MY WORDS. Man Utd will drop points, though next week they should beat bolton away.
-3rd April. Man Utd vs Chelsea (90% draw in my opinion)
BIG DISADVANTAGE to Man Utd is that 30th April vs Bayern away and then 6th April Bayern at home.
-11th April away at Blackburn who drew Chelsea and are looking solid (Manu should win but if they don't play well, Blackburn will punish them)
-17th April vs Man City AWAY. we all know about this hardcore derby.
I'm too lazy to look into the rest but Man Utd has a very tough tough few weeks coming up and how they're going to rest players for the big chelsea game since they will be playing Bayern away is going to be interesting. Any sort of team, even Barca will drop points in a schedule like this as theyre playing tough teams in the same week of a crucial CL quarter.
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Originally posted by Farhad-7 View Postman utd did not deserve to win. getting a penalty that should have been a freekick!!! torres missing two chances he usually scores for fun.
btw the ref sucked for both teams but benefited man utd a bit more as there was that idiotic kickback by fletcher when he gave away a foul and and then gave the ball away to kuyt and then kicked him in a very unprofessional way who tried to play on. yellow card at least for that one. G Neville, yes it was an accident but it was dangerous therefore yellow card. I know these don't really play a factor in the game but you could tell Liverpool were furious by the ref.
btw I'm not biased at all, this is coming from an Arsenal fan who doesn't like Liverpool FC at all and because of the ref decisions recently such as the unnecessary red card to vermaelen, I've been seeing ongoing bad ref decisions this season
good job Park and Man Utd but they beat a very mediocre Liverpool side who didn't look too good attacking and when they did, they came close. Manu did dominate the possession but didn't really test reina that much apart from Park's goal. but I guess they were playing it safe after they were 2-1 ahead.
MARK MY WORDS. Man Utd will drop points, though next week they should beat bolton away.
-3rd April. Man Utd vs Chelsea (90% draw in my opinion)
BIG DISADVANTAGE to Man Utd is that 30th April vs Bayern away and then 6th April Bayern at home.
-11th April away at Blackburn who drew Chelsea and are looking solid (Manu should win but if they don't play well, Blackburn will punish them)
-17th April vs Man City AWAY. we all know about this hardcore derby.
I'm too lazy to look into the rest but Man Utd has a very tough tough few weeks coming up and how they're going to rest players for the big chelsea game since they will be playing Bayern away is going to be interesting. Any sort of team, even Barca will drop points in a schedule like this as theyre playing tough teams in the same week of a crucial CL quarter.
I agree that Neville should've been booked for that high- challenge, but you get your luck at some point of the season. Every team will be either unlucky in one week or very lucky in one week.
Also, how come Torres didn't get booked for kicking the spot? Such a poor behaviour from the lad, and did you realise it was the same spot he missed the shot in the second half? Justice!
About the fixtures, Arsenal still have to go to Wigan,Blacbkburn,Spurs, and Birmingham away. Those games are no guranteed, and you still have to play Manchester City at home. Remember City have only lost to United from the top teams, and will be a tricky match.
All 3 teams in title-race got tough games, but i still fancy us to win the title this year. We have the 'package' for it. No team has won the Premiership 3 years in a row, yet we done it in the last years. I don't think a team has won 4 league titles in a row in English League (please correct me, if they have), and we are on course to win it. If there's a team that can create history, it must be a manager who has the experience and certainly Sir Alex Ferguson the man to lead us all the wayI've learnt it's not what you have in your life, but who you have in your life that counts
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Originally posted by JaanevarAjeeb View PostRyan Giggs and Paul Scholes- at Park's age, since you have to compare apples to apples- are head and shoulders above Ji-Sung Park any day of the week. Also, there are many, many more technically gifted players than JSP. What makes him a good player is that he has great stamina, speed, and timing, which is critical when moving down the middle and outwards/inwards from the wing.
When someone is being fed a ball on a silver platter, they SHOULD score. As I mentioned before, he missed an absolute sitter in the first half, so he re-deemed himself with that goal. Daei, Nakamura, and Mahdavikia have all scored against important sides in the Champion's League (I would take the Juve team that Mehdi played against ANY DAY over the Milan side that Park played against, he also scored against a very strong Deportivo La Coruna and assisted throughout the tourney)...so what's your point? The most important goal Park ever scored was in the UEFA Cup Final for PSV, which is why he is in ManUtd. today.
Again, just making the case for "over-rated." He is a great player by Asian standards, but at the world level he is simply good.
I understand your point about Daei scoring 'important' goals, however Daei is a GOALSCORER, it's expected for him to score. Park may be a winger, but he does half of the job keeping the balance of the team. He has got a work-rate second to none. The reason why Sir Alex Ferguson brought him, was because he's disciplinary record (hardly see him getting booked and in trouble), and what he does for the team.
I don't judge Park by the amount of goals he scores, i judge him by his performance and what he brings to the team.I've learnt it's not what you have in your life, but who you have in your life that counts
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Originally posted by JaanevarAjeeb View PostRyan Giggs and Paul Scholes- at Park's age, since you have to compare apples to apples- are head and shoulders above Ji-Sung Park any day of the week. Also, there are many, many more technically gifted players than JSP. What makes him a good player is that he has great stamina, speed, and timing, which is critical when moving down the middle and outwards/inwards from the wing.
When someone is being fed a ball on a silver platter, they SHOULD score. As I mentioned before, he missed an absolute sitter in the first half, so he re-deemed himself with that goal. Daei, Nakamura, and Mahdavikia have all scored against important sides in the Champion's League (I would take the Juve team that Mehdi played against ANY DAY over the Milan side that Park played against, he also scored against a very strong Deportivo La Coruna and assisted throughout the tourney)...so what's your point? The most important goal Park ever scored was in the UEFA Cup Final for PSV, which is why he is in ManUtd. today.
Again, just making the case for "over-rated." He is a great player by Asian standards, but at the world level he is simply good.Originally posted by PouriaAkaBarut View Post^ And If we Win it again this year , we will have more titles then Liverpool in EPL
They've won the english league (18) and when Ferguson came to Manchester to dominate Premiership.I've learnt it's not what you have in your life, but who you have in your life that counts
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Originally posted by HuSsAiN View PostLiverpool have not won the Premier League (0). The premiership was formed in 1992.
They've won the english league (18) and when Ferguson came to Manchester to dominate Premiership.
and the big collapse will start.
as for the game, how the hell did United create the better chances ??
besides the goals, their best chance was Park's free header in the first half, compared to the chances Nando missed from the box in the second half.
if anything, our chances were more serious.
sorry man, but Rooney trying to chip the ball over Reina's head from 30 yards out ain't considered a chance really.
and yesterday proved what a dirty a$$hole Fletcher is. Fellaini #2.
at least Masch, don't kick people when the ball ain't involved.
I ain't complaining though, Rafa should have started Babel to take advantage of ratboy's lack of pace. and Aurelio seriously need to stop getting injured. last year he pocketed Ronaldo...and this year we were hurt from LB position twice.
ps. Carragher and Rooney were funny, however Carra did much better than what I expected. he lost the ground to Rooney only once or twice.
and the pen was a joke. Valencidive's hand was pulled outside of the box. and as he stepped his fot inside the box, Masch let go of his hand. and then he dove.
it should have been a freekick. but what do you expect from a team who won't kick the ball out even when they are winning 2-0 against Westham and the westham player is down and injured. and they continue to attack.
but I guess we had to be hurt by the referee so justice served for Gerrard escaping the ban. so I can't complain again
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Originally posted by HuSsAiN View PostFirst of all, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes are on a different level. No-one compared JSP to Scholesy and Giggs, so again your point is invalid. In technical abilities, JSP is not the best, but still is good enough to beat players.
I understand your point about Daei scoring 'important' goals, however Daei is a GOALSCORER, it's expected for him to score. Park may be a winger, but he does half of the job keeping the balance of the team. He has got a work-rate second to none. The reason why Sir Alex Ferguson brought him, was because he's disciplinary record (hardly see him getting booked and in trouble), and what he does for the team.
I don't judge Park by the amount of goals he scores, i judge him by his performance and what he brings to the team.
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Originally posted by JaanevarAjeeb View PostUh, fyi Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs (currently) play in the positions that Park is used (between the flanks and center field), and they are both AMF- I don't think Park is DMF but AMF... yet, he doesn't score many goals or record many assists. Like I said, he has great intangibles and discipline- I never denied that. If I stand correctly, many here are going as far as saying that Park should be a STARTER. He is simply not a world-class player. Nakamura and Mahdavikia, who I used in my example, also played in the midfield where Park plays, and had many goals and assists during their prime. Your statement that Park is not a goalscorer undermines his natural role as AMF...
Parks role in AMF is to press the 'defensive' midfielder to limit time of passing. It worked vs the likes of Pirlo, and it could help disrupt other teams who like to start from their midfield to knock the balls around.
It's only been recently that Park has been giving a run of games, and he's got goals and assists. He's never been given such run of games, now he's been giving a chance, lets see how he does.I've learnt it's not what you have in your life, but who you have in your life that counts
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Originally posted by I Walk Alone View Postelnino99 why you trying to hide liverpool defeat ?
liverpool players & fans are bunch of losers and you must accept it bro !
still get eliminated in the first knock out stage
funny how a club would spend almost half a billion dollars, and their most unforgettable night of the season is beating a domestic team who got raped vs. CSKA Moscow- must be some achievement
and yea those losers annihilated Perez' family last time we met Madrid !
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