[MD 20] FIFA WORLD CUP 2010 - (1/4 finals) NED vs BRA ////// URU vs GHA

[persianbruin]

yes they should

you say that becasue you live there! I say it becasue I have watched the game a few times. They had the master Johan and the germans had everyone else!

[HuSsAiN]

I feel sorry for Gyan. So much emotions going through his head at this moment.

[Amin_]

no they shouldn't have

I don't like Holland, but actually they should've won both '74 and '78 finals.

And Holland only had Cruijff?! lol Ajax had won the Europe Cup 1 (CL now) 3 times in a row just before that WC and many players were from Ajax.

Next to Cruijff you had players like:

Arie Haan
Johan Neeskens
Willem van Hanegem
Piet Keizer
Rene and Willy van de Kerkhof
Rob Rensenbrink
Ruud Krol
Johnny Rep
Rijsbergen

etc.

Next to that they had the best coach of that time, and probably ever: Rinus Michels.

So I don't agree with "They had the master Johan and the germans had everyone else!". Germany had sick ass players as well, I know, but Holland as well.

[persianbruin]

I don't like Holland, but actually they should've won both '74 and '78 finals.
And Holland only had Cruijff?! lol Ajax had won the Europe Cup 1 (CL now) 3 times in a row just before that WC and many players were from Ajax.
Next to Cruijff you had players like:
Arie Haan
Johan Neeskens
Willem van Hanegem
Piet Keizer
Rene and Willy van de Kerkhof
Rob Rensenbrink
Ruud Krol
Johnny Rep
Rijsbergen
etc.
Next to that they had the best coach of that time, and probably ever: Rinus Michels.
So I don't agree with "They had the master Johan and the germans had everyone else!". Germany had sick ass players as well, I know, but Holland as well.

78 yes but not 74. I am going to the gym but I will reply in detail when I come back

[persianbruin]

I don't like Holland, but actually they should've won both '74 and '78 finals.
And Holland only had Cruijff?! lol Ajax had won the Europe Cup 1 (CL now) 3 times in a row just before that WC and many players were from Ajax.
Next to Cruijff you had players like:
Arie Haan
Johan Neeskens
Willem van Hanegem
Piet Keizer
Rene and Willy van de Kerkhof
Rob Rensenbrink
Ruud Krol
Johnny Rep
Rijsbergen
etc.
Next to that they had the best coach of that time, and probably ever: Rinus Michels.
So I don't agree with "They had the master Johan and the germans had everyone else!". Germany had sick ass players as well, I know, but Holland as well.

1)A bunch of young germans made it to the championship game of 1966 ony to get robbed of the WC some of those young players jonied with new blood in 1970 were denied of making it to the finals in a very very close game in which the germans had many major injuries
2) The same team now healthy and experienced won the eurocup in 1972. The main core of the team (6 Bayern players) were at their peak and had just finished winning the first of 3 consecutive champions league titles AND they were playing at home!

I know its a matter of opinion but I truly believe that talented and experienced team was the team to beat.

Also personally I think the 1990 Holland was the best they have ever had in terms of talent its just that they choked. That team had 4 of the best players I have ever seen play the game. Their only problem was that they had to beat germany motivated to avenge the 89th minute loss of 88 eurocup!

[Amin_]

1)A bunch of young germans made it to the championship game of 1966 ony to get robbed of the WC some of those young players jonied with new blood in 1970 were denied of making it to the finals in a very very close game in which the germans had many major injuries
2) The same team now healthy and experienced won the eurocup in 1972. The main core of the team (6 Bayern players) were at their peak and had just finished winning the first of 3 consecutive champions league titles AND they were playing at home!
I know its a matter of opinion but I truly believe that talented and experienced team was the team to beat.
Also personally I think the 1990 Holland was the best they have ever had in terms of talent its just that they choked. That team had 4 of the best players I have ever seen play the game. Their only problem was that they had to beat germany motivated to avenge the 89th minute loss of 88 eurocup!

All I'm saying that imo I believe no one could top Holland's overall performances in both 74 and 78 WC. Also both Germany and Argentina had home advantage in the final game. Holland had a very good team with top players, not only Cruijff.

Holland 1990 was amazing, indeed. Players like Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard, Koeman, Vanenburg, Kieft etc. were unmatched. However, I wouldn't say it was their best team ever. I believe their 1998 team was crazy as well (can't say the best though).

Anyway we all know, at big tournaments Germany is Germany, enough said, kinda impossible to beat them...

[HuSsAiN]

11 semi finals in 15 major competitive tournaments.

germans.. bloody hell