Hamed Haddadi - NBA 2010/2011 Season [Official Thread]

[Ghermez Agha]

Yeah, remember when he benched Nate Robinson for 20 games or so and the next game that he put him in, Robinson got 40 points.

dude thats one of 100 thinigs he has done wrong siince he has come here to NY. he is careless about defense, he never emphasizes defense to his players. his roations are inconsistent. His plays are horrible. he lets amare take 100 contested shots without saying a THING to him (dont get me wrong i love amare to death but he tends to get carried away lately and takes a lot of bad shots that can cost us the game in the end when we loose by a few points), we will be going on and on about all of his flaws. as a diehard knick fan, i blame about 50% of our current struggles on him.

but back to hameds situation, like i mentioned before he would undoubtabely be a great fit but im not so sure d'antoni would use him. its debateable because he did use mozgov who in my opion plays a little like hamed so you never really know.

[radin119]

i wonder if chicago would pick him up next year as another big man

nah asik is doing pretty well there and with the likes of boozer and noah he will never play

[NimzJ]

Yes, it was Mayar. But apparently he is no longer just his advisor and is in fact the agent responsible for his contracts as well. He just visited Arsalan at Rice and it looks like he will represent him as well if he makes the NBA jump.

Anyways, Hamed almost got traded to NY straight up for Roger Mason. He said the NY scouts are strong and have done their homework on the international scene, so they are fully aware of Hamed's game and potential despite his limited minutes in the NBA. Also, we can probably expect him to sign a contract in the 3 years for 10-12 million range this summer after his recent play.

Wow are you serious? Mayar is full of it if he said that. That's a shit load for someone who has only played 78 career games and averages 2 ppg. Regardless of Hamed not getting any fair PT during his 3 years, no one pays nearly MLE price for someone so unproven.

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I know earlier I said he should go on a bad team earlier, but a team I think Hamed would thrive on is the Spurs. They play smart, slow, and all their bigs are OLD. Playing under Poppovich would be a huge plus for him as well. He turns people you never heard of into solid players. I think he would get playing time as well.

Spurs Big Men:
Antonio McDyess - 36 years old
Tim Duncan - 34 years old
Matt Bonner - 31 years old
Tiago Splitter - 26 years old
Dejuan Blair - 21 years old

[EKBATAN]

Yes, it was Mayar. But apparently he is no longer just his advisor and is in fact the agent responsible for his contracts as well. He just visited Arsalan at Rice and it looks like he will represent him as well if he makes the NBA jump.

Anyways, Hamed almost got traded to NY straight up for Roger Mason. He said the NY scouts are strong and have done their homework on the international scene, so they are fully aware of Hamed's game and potential despite his limited minutes in the NBA. Also, we can probably expect him to sign a contract in the 3 years for 10-12 million range this summer after his recent play.

i hope its true but i hope mayar is smart enough to talk the talk like an agent. All i know of him is he throws persian parties and his dad owns javanan magazine.

[Babak]

Wow are you serious? Mayar is full of it if he said that. That's a shit load for someone who has only played 78 career games and averages 2 ppg. Regardless of Hamed not getting any fair PT during his 3 years, no one pays nearly MLE price for someone so unproven.
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I know earlier I said he should go on a bad team earlier, but a team I think Hamed would thrive on is the Spurs. They play smart, slow, and all their bigs are OLD. Playing under Poppovich would be a huge plus for him as well. He turns people you never heard of into solid players. I think he would get playing time as well.
Spurs Big Men:
Antonio McDyess - 36 years old
Tim Duncan - 34 years old
Matt Bonner - 31 years old
Tiago Splitter - 26 years old
Dejuan Blair - 21 years old

He got 3 years at around 1.6 mil a year without having played a minute in the NBA. It's reasonable to assume that a GM who has done his homework and is looking to gamble on an affordable big man will offer him 3-4 mil a year. Especially Memphis, who knows better than anyone what he is capable of and what his true value is.

If I'm an NBA GM, I value Haddadi at somewhere between 3-4 million, with the potential to increase his value to 6-7 million if I give him enough minutes to show what he can do.

[Farhad-7]

I won't be too hopeful for Hamed this season. Just wait for next season when he goes to a new team. (his contract ends this year)

I know some you guys think he's gonna go back to Iran but this isn't football like Teymourian, Karimi, etc case in Europe. The reason for that is that Hamed is a very talented center and has proved it in the little minutes and there are NBA scouts that take notice of these stats and will sign him and he will be used rightly if the right coach/team signs him. His agent should know this! (hopefully)

[Masoud_A]

dude thats one of 100 thinigs he has done wrong siince he has come here to NY. he is careless about defense, he never emphasizes defense to his players. his roations are inconsistent. His plays are horrible. he lets amare take 100 contested shots without saying a THING to him (dont get me wrong i love amare to death but he tends to get carried away lately and takes a lot of bad shots that can cost us the game in the end when we loose by a few points), we will be going on and on about all of his flaws. as a diehard knick fan, i blame about 50% of our current struggles on him.

but back to hameds situation, like i mentioned before he would undoubtabely be a great fit but im not so sure d'antoni would use him. its debateable because he did use mozgov who in my opion plays a little like hamed so you never really know.

Dantoni hasnt done shit in his career other than feeding off Nash's legacy. He is a fraud and an idiot. Still there is this possibility that he gets fired after this year's embarrassing display, of course it depends on whether NYK's front office actually wants to be relevant again after almost 40 years.

[Behzad12]

I doubt Mayar Zokaei is thinking straight when he says Hamed will get a 3 year contract with THAT type of money.

To put it into perspective for centres, ZaZa Pachulia, who's a proven centre in the league and has accomplished much more than Hamed is getting 4.25 million this year.

By the way, Mayar is stupid to be discussing Hamed's situation with people in the Iranian community and throwing out front office discussions.

One more thing he didn't point out is that there will be a new CBA when Hamed signs his next contract, and his $$ depends on what the new agreement is, so take what Mayar said as just him trying to create hype for his client.

[NimzJ]

He got 3 years at around 1.6 mil a year without having played a minute in the NBA. It's reasonable to assume that a GM who has done his homework and is looking to gamble on an affordable big man will offer him 3-4 mil a year. Especially Memphis, who knows better than anyone what he is capable of and what his true value is.
If I'm an NBA GM, I value Haddadi at somewhere between 3-4 million, with the potential to increase his value to 6-7 million if I give him enough minutes to show what he can do.

You're trippin dude. No way in hell he is going to get paid that much. No one gambles and makes stupid decisions to overypay an unproven player like that anymore (unless you are the Kahn and the T-Wolves). Teams are trying to be smart and build their teams the right way.

Haddadi got 1.6 a year after coming off a solid doing in the Olympics. What has he done lately to warrant a $4mil/year contract?

$3-4 mil range is what teams pay solid role players who are PROVEN. Not a big man who has only played 78 games in 3 years. I'd give you a list of players who earn in that range but I think you get my point.

[IranFootball10]

I don't think Hamed can get more than 2-3 mill a year because the new CBA will probably bring the cap lower...

[EKBATAN]

hala who cares how much he gets, ill be glad if he goes ANYWHERE he can play 10-15min/game......im sure he wants to play and money should not be an issue. All he needs is a chance to prove himself then he can get a big contract.

[Ghermez Agha]

Dantoni hasnt done shit in his career other than feeding off Nash's legacy. He is a fraud and an idiot. Still there is this possibility that he gets fired after this year's embarrassing display, of course it depends on whether NYK's front office actually wants to be relevant again after almost 40 years.

well said. but the chances of his getting fired is extreemly low since ny's front office absolutely loves him. i wouldnt say the whole season has been an embarrasment, but the recent loosing streak is an extreeme disgrace. bottom line is he is nothing without nash and he is a piece of shit coach. i would personally love to see jeff vangundy back in NY

[Babak]

You're trippin dude. No way in hell he is going to get paid that much. No one gambles and makes stupid decisions to overypay an unproven player like that anymore (unless you are the Kahn and the T-Wolves). Teams are trying to be smart and build their teams the right way.
Haddadi got 1.6 a year after coming off a solid doing in the Olympics. What has he done lately to warrant a $4mil/year contract?
$3-4 mil range is what teams pay solid role players who are PROVEN. Not a big man who has only played 78 games in 3 years. I'd give you a list of players who earn in that range but I think you get my point.

So what did Rony Turiaf prove when he got a contract for $4 mil per year? That he can be a great towel waiver while averaging 6 points and 4 boards as a backup center? Is Nenad Krstic really that much better than Haddadi to warrant making $5.8 mil a year, despite coming off a major knee surgery, being older, and being a far worse rebounder/shot blocker/inside presence?

Bottom line is this: If it's gona cost you at least around $1.5 million to pay the veteran's minimum for an old scrub in his late 30's like Ilgauskas or Juwan Howard to sit on your bench as insurance, then $3 million for a younger and emerging high upside guy like Haddadi is more than reasonable. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean that this isn't the reality. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out this summer.

[Babak]

I doubt Mayar Zokaei is thinking straight when he says Hamed will get a 3 year contract with THAT type of money.
To put it into perspective for centres, ZaZa Pachulia, who's a proven centre in the league and has accomplished much more than Hamed is getting 4.25 million this year.
By the way, Mayar is stupid to be discussing Hamed's situation with people in the Iranian community and throwing out front office discussions.
One more thing he didn't point out is that there will be a new CBA when Hamed signs his next contract, and his $$ depends on what the new agreement is, so take what Mayar said as just him trying to create hype for his client.

Read my post again. He didn't say anything about his next contract. That is purely my own speculation, I'm sorry if it came across to you as otherwise. Also, there is nothing wrong with discussing issues related to Hamed as long as they are not detrimental to him, and in this case there is nothing detrimental about it since Hamed was already aware of those things himself in the first place.

[NimzJ]

So what did Rony Turiaf prove when he got a contract for $4 mil per year? That he can be a great towel waiver while averaging 6 points and 4 boards as a backup center?

You just answered your own question, lol.

6 ppg, 5 rpg, and 2 bpg off the bench from a backup center? Do you know how many teams would love that right now?

Sure Ronny was overpaid by the Warriors' Front Office, but at least he had PRODUCED on the LAKERS before signing with GSW. What does Hamed have that warrants $4 mil a year compared to Ronny?

Is Nenad Krstic really that much better than Haddadi to warrant making $5.8 mil a year, despite coming off a major knee surgery, being older, and being a far worse rebounder/shot blocker/inside presence?

Nenad Krstic averaged 11.3 points and 5.7 rebounds in four seasons with New Jersey before signing that contract with OKC.

Compare that to Hamed's numbers:


All in all, this is a "what have you done for me lately" type of league. No one is going to pay an unproven player role player money just based off their potential. You have to earn it.

Regardless of all of this, Ekbatan is right. It doesn't even matter how much he gets. The important thing is he goes to a team where he can get playing time and build his confidence. He needs to work hard and continue to grow if he wants to last in the NBA.