Euro 2012 makes me sick

[KC McElroy]

I was born in the usa and unfortunately if i was even good enough to play internationally i would not be able to play for tm because of my moms side being bahai...so sometimes its not as black and white as it seems for people playing for other countries..

Well in your case if we assume that you definitely can't play for TM the alternative is not to play for any national team at all. You don't HAVE to play for a country's national team, especially if it's not your own country.

[Abbas85]

So going off the logic in this thread, and trying to conserve the 'specific' bloodlines of these countries, Teymourian should be playing for Armenia right?

[KC McElroy]

So going off the logic in this thread, and trying to conserve the 'specific' bloodlines of these countries, Teymourian should be playing for Armenia right?

I would have to have some information on his parents and grand parents to make that call.

[arash123]

Well in your case if we assume that you definitely can't play for TM the alternative is not to play for any national team at all. You don't HAVE to play for a country's national team, especially if it's not your own country.

i understand your point when it comes to players in qatar (or wherever) who become a citizen and a couple years later play for their NT. (pepe for portugal for instance)
but if someone whose parents for example were from sweden and they were born in the usa, i wouldn't say there is less integrity by having that person play either for sweden or the united states.

[KC McElroy]

i understand your point when it comes to players in qatar (or wherever) who become a citizen and a couple years later play for their NT. (pepe for portugal for instance)
but if someone whose parents for example were from sweden and they were born in the usa, i wouldn't say there is less integrity by having that person play either for sweden or the united states.

Well we have different opinions about this since in my opinion you shouldn't represent a country if your bloodline traces to a different country.

[Shervin.]

well then, why does khedira make u sick? his dad is tunisian, his mom is german and he has grown up in germany. it would make u sick if he played for tunisia as well cos then, a german was playing for tunisia

as for ozil, his grand parents immigrated from turkey, so his parents and himself were born and raised in germany much like americans

Good point using usa as an example of a country which has only existed less than 250 years despite the current native white Americans all having bloodlines predating that and probably going back milllions of years. Surely Landon Donovan has no 'American blood' since if you go back he will probably have dutch or german or some european bloodline as would every single white american.

I'm not saying it should be illegal to change nationalities, however, if you are representing a country you should have your roots in it with a bloodline that can be traced back to show it. It's ridiculous for example for someone who is dark skinned and speaks with a thick Indian accent to represent the US national team when he is clearly from India.

What if that dark indian had kids and they had kids and they had kids but were still dark and were raised in America. How are they any less American than the current Americans who are just the offspring of previous immigrant like the Indian.

KC if you saw a picture of me and a range of other iranians and a picture of yourself, you will see that the modern day Iranians do not all have the same blood line. What makes mixing your blood with different races such as Armenian and Azeri blood which happen to have the same nationality okay but not another similar race such as Turkish etc?

[ali alipour]

Teymourian is Armenian
Aghili is half cypriot
Hossein Kaebi was Arab
Mehrab Shahrokhi was black
Khodad azizi had hazara roots
and there was this blonde hair player in the 70's but i dont remember his name

On the basis that you made you should be sick of the Iranian national team too

[Shahin K]

KC shouldn't complain on this matter anyway. He looks like an american or wester european. I still think he's no Iranian. Looool

No seriously, if KC was a football player and played for Iran every foreigner would think he's originally non-iranian.

[Asghar Agha]

IF the players of Martinique (France) are not French, then what is their status? I just don't get it. Martinique, New Caledonia (in Oceania), or Guadeloupe make part of France. Should they be just considered as second category of population and not to play football at all?


I think KC doesn't take into consideration the European history for opening such thread.

[KC McElroy]

Teymourian is Armenian
Aghili is half cypriot
Hossein Kaebi was Arab
Mehrab Shahrokhi was black
Khodad azizi had hazara roots
and there was this blonde hair player in the 70's but i dont remember his name

On the basis that you made you should be sick of the Iranian national team too

The only thing I am sick of is your man boobs.

[KC McElroy]

What if that dark indian had kids and they had kids and they had kids but were still dark and were raised in America. How are they any less American than the current Americans who are just the offspring of previous immigrant like the Indian.

KC if you saw a picture of me and a range of other iranians and a picture of yourself, you will see that the modern day Iranians do not all have the same blood line. What makes mixing your blood with different races such as Armenian and Azeri blood which happen to have the same nationality okay but not another similar race such as Turkish etc?

Just the fact that they keep marrying within their own nationality (Indian) shows they don't consider themselves American. But like I said American is different as the whole country is immigrants and has no extensive history.
Also I'm not referring to race, but rather nationality. Like someone in this thread pointed out, Iran consists of different races, but they are all Iranian. Once the country and hence the nationality of Iran (and other countries) was established, that's what you are regardless of where you move.

IF the players of Martinique (France) are not French, then what is their status? I just don't get it. Martinique, New Caledonia (in Oceania), or Guadeloupe make part of France. Should they be just considered as second category of population and not to play football at all?

I think KC doesn't take into consideration the European history for opening such thread.

But these countries all have their own national teams, no? I know for a fact that Martinique and Guadelope do as they have played in the Gold Cup which is for national teams of CONCACAF.
At some point in Europe countries and borders were established. Whatever and from wherever your ancestor was at that time, that's what you are.

[Shamim]

KC just admit you made a mistake and lets end this discussion.

[SeZaAhan]

I believe our roots come from africa! Jesus was black !

The Words "Root,Race" is something created by racist cvnts, to make people think that they are different from each other! I believe you should be able to live and present any country in this world even if you were not born in that country! This world belongs to everyone!

I wish there was only one country in the world and everyone spoke the same language! imagine that!

[KC McElroy]

KC just admit you made a mistake and lets end this discussion.

I've made no mistake. All the players I named have no business representing the national teams that they do.

[Sorkhabi]

I have spoken to many Germans and most say they like the diversity in both their country, and their sports teams. Oezil is actually one of my favorite players as is J. Baoteng based on the quality of their game. In 1990 these player positions would have been filled with Luthar Matthaus and Stefan Reuter. There are in fact teams out there who are still very homogeneous... I can think of Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Croatia, Spain, Ireland, and even Italy for the most part.

not to mention, khedira, gomez, boateng are all half german by blood, the only real foreigner on germany's starting 11 is ozil and prodolski