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Originally posted by Asghar Agha View PostHow was Parc?
I was disappointed. During at least 30 minutes in the second half, we did shit. I'm not sure if Beckam needed to play so long. Verrati is a young boy, a fighter. I didn't see much Lavezzi. I hope we will do better the next match. We have 25% chances to win.
I don't like lavezzi that much, miss too much 1 vs 1
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Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
I dont think thats offside simply due to the fact that their feet are in the same line, and since the ball was being kicked... there is no question that mario mandzukic should be leaning that way... and its not even a clear call.. so dont cry about it, you can thank your defense for not getting scored on 2 or 3 more times....
And just so you know, Juve defense by market value is one of the best... bayern's center backs are actually not world class... our left and right backs are... but our center backs ( Dante, Van Buyten, Boateng) are all "good" players, but they arent nearly as good as chieliini, Barzalgi, etc. The only high quality CB bayern has is Badstuber and he is injured.
And Robben has been pissing me off so much lately, he is almost as skilled as ribery, but he isnt nearly as smart as ribery! Ribery is one of europes best Wingers/MF's in my opinion, he is very fast, very technically skilled, and can score on demand, but the key thing is, he knows how to pass, this damn robben doesnt pass!AKP Parti, Turkiye - Haj Bernie Sandersoglu
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Originally posted by KeonKish View PostI dont think thats offside simply due to the fact that their feet are in the same line, and since the ball was being kicked... there is no question that mario mandzukic should be leaning that way... and its not even a clear call.. so dont cry about it, you can thank your defense for not getting scored on 2 or 3 more times....
And just so you know, Juve defense by market value is one of the best... bayern's center backs are actually not world class... our left and right backs are... but our center backs ( Dante, Van Buyten, Boateng) are all "good" players, but they arent nearly as good as chieliini, Barzalgi, etc. The only high quality CB bayern has is Badstuber and he is injured.
And Robben has been pissing me off so much lately, he is almost as skilled as ribery, but he isnt nearly as smart as ribery! Ribery is one of europes best Wingers/MF's in my opinion, he is very fast, very technically skilled, and can score on demand, but the key thing is, he knows how to pass, this damn robben doesnt pass!
been called millions of times. Any part of the body that is ahead of the defender is offside, its not about where the feet are.
And comparing centerbacks is not a valid argument...look at how much $$$$ bayern throws at players vs. Juve which is basically NOTHING and then the experience of over the years. OF course Bayern were the favorites. Last year and 2010 runner ups, Juve barely climbed back this high after some years of trying to come back from the scandal. Conte is also a new coach...this team just formed 16 months ago!
Im proud of Juve for reaching this far, like i said before. NO one expected it. And its also still not over.
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Originally posted by EKBATAN View Posthow long have u watched the game? when the player is leaning its OFFSIDE
been called millions of times. Any part of the body that is ahead of the defender is offside, its not about where the feet are.
And comparing centerbacks is not a valid argument...look at how much $$$$ bayern throws at players vs. Juve which is basically NOTHING and then the experience of over the years. OF course Bayern were the favorites. Last year and 2010 runner ups, Juve barely climbed back this high after some years of trying to come back from the scandal. Conte is also a new coach...this team just formed 16 months ago!
Im proud of Juve for reaching this far, like i said before. NO one expected it. And its also still not over.
you must also realize that the camera angle isnt the same thing the ref sees, it may very well be that when you are in the refs point of view, it isnt offside.AKP Parti, Turkiye - Haj Bernie Sandersoglu
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Originally posted by KeonKish View Postyou must also realize that the camera angle isnt the same thing the ref sees, it may very well be that when you are in the refs point of view, it isnt offside.
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good game by us, pity we wasted so many chances. had we scored a 3rd one out of the 3 4 clear cut chances we had which mostly robben missed, we didnt have to worry much going to turin with juve needing to score 4 goals. now we go there and we need to score 1 goal there and juve need to score 4.
about the ref, chiellini and vidal should have been sent off atleast 3 times in the same 90 minutes. ribery's tackle however was disgusting.
about the goal, i dont think it was offside at all. as the images show here, the 2 players were on the same line at the time of the shot and in such cases, FIFA laws are to go with the attacker (for the beauty of football).
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Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Post[ATTACH]12350[/ATTACH]
again im not denying bayern deserved the win...but both goals were a little tough luck for Juve...i mean to start the game goin down 1-0 with a deflection was just bad luck. Buffon was positioned right to save it but the deflection totally threw him off. And the 2nd goal offside just took us out. All the other chances werent as "clear cut" as you put it...they were good chances but they werent open net or one on one with keeper type. Buffon had some saves and others went wide.
This game showed Conte's inexperience as a coach. He's only been on top flight for less than 2 years.
2nd game will be tough and if we dont score early...u guys will score on counters and then it'll be over *sigh*
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We had an identical situation in the World Cup where Voeller scored against Bulgaria after Germany's shot came back off of the goal post. It was correctly called offside.I went to Sharif University. I'm a superior genetic mutation, an improvement on the existing mediocre stock.
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Bayern's first goal was a total fluke...it made things so easy for them afterwards because Juve was just there to get the draw...
I hope Juve can turn things around in the second leg
Btw, anybody noticed how Bayern drastically improved when they announced Guardiolas signing? They play like they are on steroids! I guess the spanish doctor already gave them a visit....
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the law says if the attacker and defender are on the same line, advantage to the forward (for beauty of the game and to see more goals or dangerous opportunities)
Originally posted by EKBATAN View Postwhen did the rules change that is not offside ? LOL
again im not denying bayern deserved the win...but both goals were a little tough luck for Juve...i mean to start the game goin down 1-0 with a deflection was just bad luck. Buffon was positioned right to save it but the deflection totally threw him off. And the 2nd goal offside just took us out. All the other chances werent as "clear cut" as you put it...they were good chances but they werent open net or one on one with keeper type. Buffon had some saves and others went wide.
This game showed Conte's inexperience as a coach. He's only been on top flight for less than 2 years.
2nd game will be tough and if we dont score early...u guys will score on counters and then it'll be over *sigh*Last edited by yashar_fasihnia; 04-03-2013, 01:46 PM.
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