Aria Jasuru Hasegawa @ F.C. Tokyo 2013/14 updates

[MR.S]

Shojaei is not suited for the wing position, but he fits in the CAM role perfectly. I'd like this line up if Aria will choose for Iran:

Davari

Beitashour
Montazeri
Hosseini
Sadeghi

Hasegawa / Masoud
Andranik
Nekounam

Dejagah
Ghoochannejad
Jahanbaksh

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I know he played as a CAM before, but isnt he playing as a winger in laspalmas? maybe i'm wrong

[Martin-Reza]

AW: Aria Jasuru Hasegawa @ F.C. Tokyo 2013/14 updates

He won't come, so no need to hype him any longer .

[Kiarash]

Re: Aria Jasuru Hasegawa @ F.C. Tokyo 2013/14 updates

He won't come, so no need to hype him any longer .

Source?

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[alaph]

His dad on a 90 interview. He didn't say no 100 percent but you can read between the lines

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[Pepsi-cola]

^ because he will have to change citizinship and give away his japanese passport. Who in this planet would do that, to exchange a great passport with the worlds next worst passport in the world ??? NOT ME

[perspolis#1]

Shojaei should play CAM as his passing can be exquisite. That's the creative spark we need for Ashkan or Gucci to run onto. This world cup we need to learn to play different formations as 4-2-3-1 will not work against every team. Jahanbaksh/Khalatbari/Dejagah should be the wingers. 4-2-3-1 would be fine against Nigeria but against Argentina I think a 5 back with two wingbacks (probably Heydari and Beitashour) will be fine. Our 3 centerback's would be Montazeri, Hosseini, and Beikzadeh. We will be defending for 70 out of the 90 minutes that game anyway.

[Dreamer]

It'd be very disappointing if he won't join.

[Afat11]

He'll join. Technically he has dual citizenship, even if Japan won't recognize it. Countries that don't recognize dual citizenship are not forced to recognize the citizenship provided by another country, but at the same time, they cannot force someone to renounce their Japanese citizenship based purely on a jus sanguinis citizenship in another country. Namely, Aria has jus sanguinis (law of blood) in both Iran and Japan, but only jus soli (law of land) in Japan. There are many people born in Japan with one Japanese parent, but another parent of American, or Dutch, or Spanish, or French blood as well. Japan will NOT recognize the status of dual citizenship, but some of these other countries do. When this situation occurs, it does not mean that the person has to give up their Japanese citizenship if they choose to visit their home countries, or go play football in a league in their country.

FIFA laws do not reflect Japanese law. It is an international body. Aria does not need an "honorary" citizenship from Iran, because he is already an Iranian citizen through his father's blood. If he chooses to move to Iran permanently, he will not be able to retain the dual citizenship in Japan. If he takes vacations to Iran for business (aka playing football), that does not mean he is renouncing his Japanese citizenship. Japan has a very strict race-based citizenship standard (a surprisingly racist and xenophobic government in Japan), and they may threaten to terminate Aria's citizenship if he plays for his Father country of Iran. I think IFF is currently complaining to FIFA about this, because it does not reflect international footballing standards. FIFA will likely agree with Iran, and sanction Japan if they terminate Aria's citizenship.

[alaph]

Thanks for the info. Was there an article which you got all that info from? with links and such? I would love a link ...
Thanks dashi.

[Ghermez Agha]

He'll join. Technically he has dual citizenship, even if Japan won't recognize it. Countries that don't recognize dual citizenship are not forced to recognize the citizenship provided by another country, but at the same time, they cannot force someone to renounce their Japanese citizenship based purely on a jus sanguinis citizenship in another country. Namely, Aria has jus sanguinis (law of blood) in both Iran and Japan, but only jus soli (law of land) in Japan. There are many people born in Japan with one Japanese parent, but another parent of American, or Dutch, or Spanish, or French blood as well. Japan will NOT recognize the status of dual citizenship, but some of these other countries do. When this situation occurs, it does not mean that the person has to give up their Japanese citizenship if they choose to visit their home countries, or go play football in a league in their country.

FIFA laws do not reflect Japanese law. It is an international body. Aria does not need an "honorary" citizenship from Iran, because he is already an Iranian citizen through his father's blood. If he chooses to move to Iran permanently, he will not be able to retain the dual citizenship in Japan. If he takes vacations to Iran for business (aka playing football), that does not mean he is renouncing his Japanese citizenship. Japan has a very strict race-based citizenship standard (a surprisingly racist and xenophobic government in Japan), and they may threaten to terminate Aria's citizenship if he plays for his Father country of Iran. I think IFF is currently complaining to FIFA about this, because it does not reflect international footballing standards. FIFA will likely agree with Iran, and sanction Japan if they terminate Aria's citizenship.

If this was the case, I'm sure arias dad would have sounded much more optimistic than what we heard on 90. I wish I could be as optimistic as you are, but based on the interview the chances of him cominf are very very slim. I'm not discrediting anything you posted, but there is definitely more to it if arias dad sounded like there's almost no alternative.

[alaph]

Maybe he didn't know?
I really wanna see the sources for that claim because if true, then WOOOOoo
in the mean time, this random guy for TM!!

[rezabmehr]

It is every footballers dream to play in the world cup. If CQ really wants him, he will show up. He has many great players ahead of him in Japan and since he didn't get a call up for 2014, his chances are slim in 2018. His citizenship issues should not be that important compared to having a great chance to perform in Brazil. With all that said, I am not in his head and we will find out soon.

[OFFSIDE_1]

He'll join. Technically he has dual citizenship, even if Japan won't recognize it. Countries that don't recognize dual citizenship are not forced to recognize the citizenship provided by another country, but at the same time, they cannot force someone to renounce their Japanese citizenship based purely on a jus sanguinis citizenship in another country. Namely, Aria has jus sanguinis (law of blood) in both Iran and Japan, but only jus soli (law of land) in Japan. There are many people born in Japan with one Japanese parent, but another parent of American, or Dutch, or Spanish, or French blood as well. Japan will NOT recognize the status of dual citizenship, but some of these other countries do. When this situation occurs, it does not mean that the person has to give up their Japanese citizenship if they choose to visit their home countries, or go play football in a league in their country.

FIFA laws do not reflect Japanese law. It is an international body. Aria does not need an "honorary" citizenship from Iran, because he is already an Iranian citizen through his father's blood. If he chooses to move to Iran permanently, he will not be able to retain the dual citizenship in Japan. If he takes vacations to Iran for business (aka playing football), that does not mean he is renouncing his Japanese citizenship. Japan has a very strict race-based citizenship standard (a surprisingly racist and xenophobic government in Japan), and they may threaten to terminate Aria's citizenship if he plays for his Father country of Iran. I think IFF is currently complaining to FIFA about this, because it does not reflect international footballing standards. FIFA will likely agree with Iran, and sanction Japan if they terminate Aria's citizenship.

By Japanese law, he has to choose between his Japanese and Iranian citizenship before the age of 22. If he does not choose, the Japanese government can at any point force him to declare in which he has one month to do so. Failure to do so will result in him losing his japanese nationality. Ofcourse with our luck, his one month period will end the day before the game against Nigeria.

From wiki:
"While dual nationals of Japan and Iran born to Iranian fathers may not have to renounce their Japanese nationality, exercising their other citizenship in Japan is considered an expatriating act that nullifies their Japanese citizenship." So the question is, does the act of playing for a national team is considered an expatriation act? Does it have to occur on Japanese soil because this is I believe a condition.

"technically" Iran also does not recognize dual citizenship, but it is not clear how they treat those that have obtained a foreign citizenship through a parent, which is the case with Aria. The below document only refers to naturalized citizens and not those that obtained foreign passports through birth or parent. Ofcourse these days many of the sons and daughters of our beloved akhoonds are US citizens, so the government looks the other way.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1142.html

I think he needs an attorney since there is so much gray area

[persianfire]

Hasegawa has transferred to Cerezo Osaka, who will play Asian Champions League this season. And Uruguay international Diego Forlan will join the club too.

[Beeza]

^ thanks, a source would be appreciated if you have one