UEFA Champions League

[mayhem]

English teams in recent years simply can't keep a 11 man team for the full match in the champions league. It's been a curse. Today and yesterdays was deserved, terrible challenges, however last years Man United against Real was ridiculous, and Arsenal against Barca, who got second yellow for scoring an offside goal literally 2seconds after the whistle went, was simply outrageous.

[AllStarMomo]

[babak_iran]

Ozil has been terrible in the last few games. Arsenal should have subbed out Ozil and kept Cazorla in. He was getting fed on defence.

[Ali.Karimi79]

English teams in recent years simply can't keep a 11 man team for the full match in the champions league. It's been a curse. Today and yesterdays was deserved, terrible challenges, however last years Man United against Real was ridiculous, and Arsenal against Barca, who got second yellow for scoring an offside goal literally 2seconds after the whistle went, was simply outrageous.

Not a curse but rather the fact that they play too physical in their league thinking everywhere is played same.
I am not a fan of refs who blow the whistle soosool style every second but the gap between english style and rest of the world is getting bigger every year.

[soniq]

I think Ozil's "failure" should be attributed to lack of players who make runs in Arsenal due to injuries (Walcott, Ramsey, Ox-before he came back from injury) Giroud is Arsenal's Ali Daei basically, Sanogo seems hopeful. A player like ozil can only shine if he has players who make runs, defensively he is weak though, piss poor

[HuSsAiN]

^ great post.

[EKBATAN]

honestly i think only teams that can win it this year are bayern and barca. but only if barca plays their top game and everyone stays healthy. it would be cool to see a barca/bayern final.

[the-ali]

How the hell are United even in the last 16? Terrible team.

[EKBATAN]

How the hell are United even in the last 16? Terrible team.

EPL is the best league in the world! how dare you?

[HuSsAiN]

EPL is the most entertaining the league to watch because of the unpredictability and the pace of the game, but it doesn't mean it has the best teams in the world.. there's a difference.

[the-ali]

EPL is the most entertaining the league to watch because of the unpredictability and the pace of the game, but it doesn't mean it has the best teams in the world.. there's a difference.

sure if you enjoy poor passing and players running like headless chickens.

[hzv]

man u is out

[PouriaAkaBarut]

How the hell are United even in the last 16? Terrible team.

That's a low blow and a cheap shot to go at us in our worst season. We all know United is having a tough season because of they are in their transition period and Moyes isn't making things easy us. But again let me remind you this terrible team beat Bayern Leverkusen in their home ground 5-0 while they are 2nd in Bundesliga.

Ekbatan I never liked having this discussion with you concerning the best leagues in the world because you stay biased to your Serie A and never look at the other arguments people make. The argument was never that EPL has the best 2-3 teams, it was that it was the deepest from top to bottom. European competition was never going to prove or disprove that. If you look at this years Champions league, Arsenal played the most dominant team in the world now with 10 men for 50 minutes, Man City played the best team in the world for the last decade with 10 men for 60 minutes. I don't think one week is a reflection of the overall quality of an entire league. Don't forget there have been 9 premier league teams in the UCL final in the last 10 years, if you're looking for relevant stats about European competition. It would be like looking at Juventus dominance in Serie A over the past years and judging the whole league based on their last years performance and getting outplayed over 2 legs against Bayern.

[yashar_fasihnia]

honestly i think only teams that can win it this year are bayern and barca. but only if barca plays their top game and everyone stays healthy. it would be cool to see a barca/bayern final.

i think its bayern and madrid are the top 2. this years madrid kind of reminds me of last years bayern, very direct and fast in counter attacks and ability to score form multiple players.

barca is third due to inconsistencies.

then there are some teams like chelsea, dortmund, atheletico and PSG who can beat the above 3 if those 3 teams have a bad day.. im not 100% convinced on them

this is assuming arsenal and man city get knocked out this round.

[EKBATAN]

Ekbatan I never liked having this discussion with you concerning the best leagues in the world because you stay biased to your Serie A and never look at the other arguments people make. The argument was never that EPL has the best 2-3 teams, it was that it was the deepest from top to bottom. European competition was never going to prove or disprove that. If you look at this years Champions league, Arsenal played the most dominant team in the world now with 10 men for 50 minutes, Man City played the best team in the world for the last decade with 10 men for 60 minutes. I don't think one week is a reflection of the overall quality of an entire league. Don't forget there have been 9 premier league teams in the UCL final in the last 10 years, if you're looking for relevant stats about European competition. It would be like looking at Juventus dominance in Serie A over the past years and judging the whole league based on their last years performance and getting outplayed over 2 legs against Bayern.

i've never said serie A was the best league so no need to get defensive. i always make fun of people who compare leagues based on few results in europe. so dont pin that on me like u guys always do.