Bosnia is having a horrible EURO 2016 campaign

[Zamboor]

I can explain this pretty easy. EVERY nation in europe has improved to such a high quality that they can upset the bigger teams. Everyone except San Marino and Gilibitrar

[elnino99]

^ Same. The gap in Europe is narrowing down, and you barely see massive score lines any more. Eastern Europe specially has come leaps and bounds.

Most amazing of all, in space of 4 years, Iceland has become the strongest Nordic nation and I won't be slightest surprised if they beat Netherlands on Monday.

I love it. The teams there play proper football....much better than the crap we see in our continent sadly.

[Messy]

Argentina and Nigeria hardly counter our counter attacks.

I believe BH score 2 goals countering our counters. They knew that was the way to get past our stingy defense.

[O-ZoNe]

First, I don't see how anyone here "idolized" Bosnia. Acknowledging their improvement is no different than pointing out that Wales right now is also a much improved side compared to previous years.

As for football history, Bosnia and Croatia were part of Yugoslavia's football apparatus. They had a decent football tradition prior to independence. Croatia even made the semi-finals of the World Cup just three years after a bloody civil war.

No matter how you slice it, this Bosnian team is by no means a weak side and their performance against Argentina and just this week against Bale's Welsh team showed exactly that. They also have a much better generation of players than before. This ain't the Bosnia of a few years ago. I do agree that we should absolutely finish top 4 with CQ at the Asian Cup, but let's not get carried away with this "we beat them in a friendly 4 years ago so we should always beat them" logic.

CQ stated that he felt Bosnia was the "best team" in our WC group. He felt they were unlucky not to go through. If that isn't idolizing you tell me what is?

[hzv]

the gap has narrowed internationally and not just in europe.

[hzv]

CQ stated that he felt Bosnia was the "best team" in our WC group. He felt they were unlucky not to go through. If that isn't idolizing you tell me what is?

responding to bosnia's coach by saying give me his players and give him mine and then lets talk after the game was far worst.

[Bi-honar]

Poland today beat Germany 2 - 0 in Euro 2016 qualifiers. Does this mean Poland is a better team, or does this mean the Germans underperformed? The same comparison can be made about Bosnia and Iran.

I watched the game and this was a perfect example of how winning/losing these matches has nothing to do with the quality or skill level of players or footballing culture as Germany was superior in both of those two things. Germany lost the game to Lowe.

He had a serious miscalculation yesterday in fielding an experimental, mostly inexperienced and disorganized team, rather than gradually allowing the newcomers to fit into a more cohesive core unit comprising of more experienced players who had plenty of co-ordination with each other from playing together for years. He did the same in the Argentina friendly and should have known better not to underestimate the Poles or the consequences of the humiliating loss to Argentina on the psyche of his players.

[elnino99]

speaking of horrible campaigns....look at Nigeria's for african cup of nations

[xerexes]

CQ stated that he felt Bosnia was the "best team" in our WC group. He felt they were unlucky not to go through. If that isn't idolizing you tell me what is?

It's not idolizing when it's a pretty accurate statement. Whether or not they were "the best", they definitely did deserve to go through at least as the second team and were unlucky not to beat Argentina.

I've said before that I don't think CQ is the best coach out there, but I do know he's pretty much as good as we're going to get with IR running the show. And once he's gone we're much more likely to downgrade than upgrade. That's been the story for the last 35 years.

And as far as the idea of him not rating our players, I think it's a pretty big deal that the players themselves were in tears after the last WC match and were seen imploring Kaffashian to keep Queiroz. Even Karimi who almost never got along with a coach and was especially sensitive to 'disrespect' never had a bad word to say about this guy even after getting passed over for the WC. The players certainly believe in him, even if some of us get the impression he doesn't believe in them. He built a solid team for Brazil, let him at least take that team to Australia...and if it doesn't work out we can always look for other options for WCQ.

[Paradigm]

I watched the game and this was a perfect example of how winning/losing these matches has nothing to do with the quality or skill level of players or footballing culture as Germany was superior in both of those two things. Germany lost the game to Lowe.
He had a serious miscalculation yesterday in fielding an experimental, mostly inexperienced and disorganized team, rather than gradually allowing the newcomers to fit into a more cohesive core unit comprising of more experienced players who had plenty of co-ordination with each other from playing together for years. He did the same in the Argentina friendly and should have known better not to underestimate the Poles or the consequences of the humiliating loss to Argentina on the psyche of his players.

Ok, but most of the German squad is the same as the World Cup. The only players not featuring now are Lahm and Klose.

Do you think the lack of only two players should weaken the whole team so much?!

[Clockwork]

Ok, but most of the German squad is the same as the World Cup. The only players not featuring now are Lahm and Klose.
Do you think the lack of only two players should weaken the whole team so much?!

Ozil, Howedes, Schweinsteiger and Khedira are all injured.
To Bi-honar - Its way oversimplified to put the blame entirely on Lowe. Also, you have to taken in account the Argentina game was a friendly, which is meant for experimenting.

[EKBATAN]

watching the euro qualifier highlights....there are lots of good teams. i was amazed at how good some of these small teams were. our futbol and asian futbol in general is way behind. even freakin azerbaijan was playing pretty decent against italy. we are in big trouble next world cup if we make it. everyone is getting better while we play useless friendlies.

what is the point of playing a friendly against a club side mid season?? their good players are on international duty and they have no reason to play good against us. im sure sporting lisbon will be sending their C team to play us tomorrow.

[persian_pooya]

Re: Bosnia is having a horrible EURO 2016 campaign

watching the euro qualifier highlights....there are lots of good teams. i was amazed at how good some of these small teams were. our futbol and asian futbol in general is way behind. even freakin azerbaijan was playing pretty decent against italy. we are in big trouble next world cup if we make it. everyone is getting better while we play useless friendlies.

what is the point of playing a friendly against a club side mid season?? their good players are on international duty and they have no reason to play good against us. im sure sporting lisbon will be sending their C team to play us tomorrow.

Azerbaijan lost 6-0..

[Kiarash]

Sorry for bringing it up, but our WC opponent Bosnia is losing 2-0 to Israel at half time during another EURO Qualifying game.

[Abtin]

Hahaha!!!!!