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    Originally posted by Philosophy_King View Post
    Yeah the refs made some horrible decisions but anyway its just shocking to see how most
    of the fights ends with iranain defeat. At some point i just wished that iranains
    stop participating at this armenians tournement because its just emberassing for
    iran. We are damn gifted at weightlifting and wrestling but mma is something that
    has no "history" in our culture.
    This has definite something todo with the hard conditions
    that georgians, armenians, daghestani, tchechnians etc. faced durin soviet time.
    They are much rougher and cruel than iranians. I think another big
    factor his Hooliganism and Streetfights. In East Europe, Caucasus
    you have much harder and often Streetfights which is something that is
    alien to iranains. Do we even have something like "iranian Hooligans"?
    Anyway hope that we compensate this defeats in Wrestling. ;D
    After Round 3 Iranian fighter should have been declared winner as he did well in the first 2 rounds. The judges made sure Armenian fighter comes back and win so they said 4th round is needed. Thank god with all this cheating still their fighter could not do anything so the judges not to get embarrassed declared the result a DRAW.

    Armenians from ArmFC are no where in Fightmatrix's ratings! Most Armenians who are top fighters are from USA and Russia. The ones from Armenia are not good.

    At least IFC [Iran Fighting Championship] has one fighter in the ratings. Also many Iranian fighters now compete in top/regional promos like Fight Nights Global, Full Metal Dojo, ACB Young Eagles, Chinese MMA League and Phoenix Fighting Championship. Iranian expats are also in UFC, ONE Championship, Bellator, Cage Warriors, German MMA.

    Mousasi is ranked 4 in the world.

    Aliakbari is ranked 25 in the world.

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      @rooyintan, do you know the title of the book of the british traveller?

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        Originally posted by rooyintan View Post
        After Round 3 Iranian fighter should have been declared winner as he did well in the first 2 rounds. The judges made sure Armenian fighter comes back and win so they said 4th round is needed. Thank god with all this cheating still their fighter could not do anything so the judges not to get embarrassed declared the result a DRAW.
        Armenians from ArmFC are no where in Fightmatrix's ratings! Most Armenians who are top fighters are from USA and Russia. The ones from Armenia are not good.
        At least IFC [Iran Fighting Championship] has one fighter in the ratings. Also many Iranian fighters now compete in top/regional promos like Fight Nights Global, Full Metal Dojo, ACB Young Eagles, Chinese MMA League and Phoenix Fighting Championship. Iranian expats are also in UFC, ONE Championship, Bellator, Cage Warriors, German MMA.
        Mousasi is ranked 4 in the world.
        Aliakbari is ranked 25 in the world.
        Just check out and guess what... Mousasi was born in Tehran but
        has Armenian ethnicity.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gegard_Mousasi#Background

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          Originally posted by Philosophy_King View Post
          Just check out and guess what... Mousasi was born in Tehran but
          has Armenian ethnicity.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gegard_Mousasi#Background
          Yes I know but he does not consider himself Iranian. What needs to be done is for Iran to find good fighters from Iranian-Armenians from Tehran, Esfehan, Tabriz and send them to Yerevan to win fights and wrapped themselves in Iran flag and wave the Iranian flag in Yerevan. So far from what I have seen from ArmFC they are Armenian Ultranationalists when their fighters go to Fight Nights Global or ACB Young Eagles and fight Azerbaijani and Turkish fighters, after their win they celebrate like hell. In their tournaments in Yerevan apart from Iran's first participation where Armenia won 5 and Iran 3. All others the referees/judges made sure Armenia wins most fights like 8 wins and Iran only 1 or 2! Also the fight between Iranian fighters and Armenia fighters I think they deliberately told their fighters to take Iranian's hejab and really beat them up. Also the judges/refrees have been making decisions in favour of Georgians against Iranian fighters as well.
          In the last ArmFC they even had one fighter who came with flag of unrecognized Republic of Artsakh [Occupied Karabagh in Azerbaijan].

          It is time for Iran to send Iranian-Armenians and Iranian-Assyrians to Yerevan and win for Iran or at least let's see how Armenians behave with Iranian Christians

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            Originally posted by amirfigo View Post
            @rooyintan, do you know the title of the book of the british traveller?
            Sorry I read so many books do not recall which one.... maybe Colonel Yate or MacGregor or one of the other British travellers [spies]

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              Originally posted by rooyintan View Post
              Yes I know but he does not consider himself Iranian. What needs to be done is for Iran to find good fighters from Iranian-Armenians from Tehran, Esfehan, Tabriz and send them to Yerevan to win fights and wrapped themselves in Iran flag and wave the Iranian flag in Yerevan. So far from what I have seen from ArmFC they are Armenian Ultranationalists when their fighters go to Fight Nights Global or ACB Young Eagles and fight Azerbaijani and Turkish fighters, after their win they celebrate like hell. In their tournaments in Yerevan apart from Iran's first participation where Armenia won 5 and Iran 3. All others the referees/judges made sure Armenia wins most fights like 8 wins and Iran only 1 or 2! Also the fight between Iranian fighters and Armenia fighters I think they deliberately told their fighters to take Iranian's hejab and really beat them up. Also the judges/refrees have been making decisions in favour of Georgians against Iranian fighters as well.
              In the last ArmFC they even had one fighter who came with flag of unrecognized Republic of Artsakh [Occupied Karabagh in Azerbaijan].

              It is time for Iran to send Iranian-Armenians and Iranian-Assyrians to Yerevan and win for Iran or at least let's see how Armenians behave with Iranian Christians
              Yeah that a great idea!
              Another good way is to create on day an iranian mma competition and invite both armenians and
              georgians. I am pretty sure that on our soil things will be different. I am pretty sure it cant be for
              racial-ethnic reason why armenians are so successfull against iranians since their physics and
              body construction is cose to iranians.

              Anyway we will get our revenge against armenia in wrestling!

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                Originally posted by Philosophy_King View Post
                Yeah that a great idea!
                Another good way is to create on day an iranian mma competition and invite both armenians and
                georgians. I am pretty sure that on our soil things will be different. I am pretty sure it cant be for
                racial-ethnic reason why armenians are so successfull against iranians since their physics and
                body construction is cose to iranians.
                Anyway we will get our revenge against armenia in wrestling!
                There are already Iranian MMA events. Foreign fighters who participated/scheduled from Afghanistan, Iraq, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and Russia.

                Have a look at these

                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs-...rF3xi10Pkot0hQ

                https://www.instagram.com/iran_fight...ionship/?hl=en

                http://www.sherdog.com/events/HFC-Ho...onship-9-50787
                http://www.sherdog.com/events/HFC-Pe...Warriors-59095
                http://www.sherdog.com/events/WEF-Pr...Warriors-57173
                http://www.sherdog.com/organizations...pionship-12465
                Last edited by Rooyintan; 04-13-2018, 02:08 AM.

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                  Suman Mokhtarian is in The Ultimate Fighter on Team Stipe.

                  Suman's girlfriend is Nadia Kassem, who is a Lebanese MMA fighter.

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                    Originally posted by amirfigo View Post
                    @rooyintan, do you know the title of the book of the british traveller?
                    "Khurasan and Sistan" by Colonel Yate.

                    These are some of his writings from the book.

                    Some men
                    in our camp, notably the Yezdis, were absolutely ludi-
                    crous in their fear, and they hardly dared to move
                    out of their tents. They were not only blue with funk,
                    but they got quite thin with funk. Yezdis are pro-
                    verbial amongst Persians for cowardice, so much so
                    that they were found to be too cowardly even for the
                    Persian army, and a regunent of Yezdis that formerly
                    existed was accordingly disbanded. The story, as told
                    1)7 the Persians, is that as soon as the regiment had
                    l^een disbanded, the men petitioned the Shah for an



                    250 KHURASAN AND 8ISTAN.

                    escort to take them home, on the groimd that they were
                    800 poor lone creatures who could not travel without
                    one. Yezd is in the south of Persia, but the three men
                    of the Shahrud Regiment, quite in the north, that I
                    had as my escort, were almost as bad. Considerable
                    amusement was caused by the way these men flew for
                    their lives from the village at the first sight of the
                    horsemen returning from the raid, without stopping to
                    reason why or wherefore they ran, and the same sort
                    of thing might be expected to happen again in any
                    Persian campaign against Turkomans, just as it has
                    happened in the past. The Kurds and Turks are the
                    only people in Northern Persia that I have seen who are
                    fit to be trusted in any way against Turkomans.
                    The gunners were all Kabulis, and fine
                    stalwart men too, and they showed their metal in this
                    work. They had a cross-bar fixed to the trail of the gun,
                    and they lifted this up and walked away with the gun as
                    if it was nothing. I always think a Kabuli is worth two
                    Kandaharis and about four Heratis for real work.
                    Talking of Circassians, I cannot help remarking what
                    a useful body of men Caucasians seem to be, and what
                    excellent soldiers many of them make.
                    The Kurds
                    are the only people on the Khurasan frontier that seem
                    to have held their own in any way against the Turkomans,
                    whether Tekkes or Yamuts, and to my mind they are
                    much more fitted for service in Turkoman country than
                    any Persians. The employment of Turkoman levies by
                    the Persian Government is doubtless a step in the right
                    direction, but is of little use so long as the levies cannot
                    be controlled.
                    This fort is purely a Eain settlement. No Sistanis are
                    allowed to live in it, and those that come in by day to the
                    bazar are not allowed to take in arms, and are turned
                    out again at night when the gates are shut There were
                    said to be about 1400 people altogether in the place,
                    including sarbazes, irregulars, and followers of sorts.
                    The pay of the sarbazes, or soldiers of the Eain r^-
                    ment was seven tumans, or £1, 8s. in cash, and three
                    Eain kharwars, or 1095 lbs. of grain, per annum. With
                    these sarbazes were also twenty Persian artillerymen,
                    mostly Azarbaijanis like those at Birjand, and the Sartip
                    took me round to show me the guns. They consisted of
                    two old brass smooth-bores cast at Tabriz seventy-five
                    and fifty years before respectively, and one mortar. Two
                    other guns were mounted on bastions, and one was in
                    store, but most of the wheels had fallen to pieces, and it
                    was doubtful if any one of them could be fired or moved.
                    When I looked at these guns and at the so-called Qain
                    Regiment, a lot of miserable, sickly-looking men armed
                    with rusty old muskets, without the ffuntest idea of drill
                    or discipline, and utterly devoid of all soldierly instincts,
                    I could not but acknowledge the truth of the Afghan
                    soldier s remark that were it not for us and the Russians
                    they would turn the Persians out of Sistan to-morrow.
                    As we neared the Turkoman frontier, the Persian
                    sarbazes or soldiers on duty with me gave us many
                    stories of former days. The nearer they got to the
                    Turkomans the more they dwelt on them. One old man
                    I well remember. He had been a sarbaz for thirty years,
                    and had served at Shiraz and at Bandar Abbas as well as
                    in Khurasan. He was born at Shahrud, and both he and
                    his two brothers were all taken prisoners and carried off
                    by the Turkomans in their youth. His brothers were
                    taken to Khiva, and had never been heard of since. He
                    himself was taken to Ashkabad, and his father succeeded
                    in ransoming him there for the sum of ninety tumans.
                    Many a man could tell a similar tale along this frontier,
                    and the Persians have much to be thankful for to Russia
                    for putting the Turkomans down. Nothing remains of
                    the former fear of them now but the memory of past
                    raids, but that memory is an abiding one, and will be
                    long in dying out. The only thing to be said for the
                    Persians is, that if they had had the pluck to resist they
                    would never have suffered as they did. The Kurds and
                    other frontier tribesmen never seem to have had the same
                    dread of the Turkoman that the Persians had. Turko-
                    mans, so far as my experience goes, are neither good
                    swordsmen nor good rifle-shots, and had they had any
                    one to deal with but Persians they could never, I think,
                    Ixave maintained the terror over Khurasan that they did.
                    Our next march to Igdalik took us within a few miles
                    of the village of Archingan, where a Russian and Persian
                    ^Boundary Commission was said to be then engaged in the
                    clemarcation of the frontier between the two countries.
                    https://archive.org/details/khurasanandsist00yategoog

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                      Abdolvali our controversial wrestler who won gold in 2011 n got screwed in the olympics is banned from wrestling for a year n says after talking to aliakbari wants to go to mma

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                        http://tamasha.com/v/KGyxM

                        Amir tells his story, this is heartbreaking stuff

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                          Originally posted by rooyintan View Post
                          If he is to be excluded then so should Sirwan Kakai and Gegard Mousasi who both prefer to fly flags of Sweden & Kurdistan or Netherlands & Armenia instead of Iranian flag.
                          If you're watching UFC right now, you'd know why I said dont consider Amirkhani as Iranian. "Mr. Finland", has Finland's flag next to his name, waves a Kurdistan flag/ or Finalnd's, and asked to get introduced as "fighting out of Finland, by way of Kurdistan". Why would we support him lol?
                          --------------------------Beiranvand-------------------
                          --Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
                          ------------------Ezatolahi-----Ebrahimi--------------
                          --Jahanbaksh---------Ghoddos------------Taremi--
                          ---------------------------Azmoun----------------------


                          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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                            Originally posted by Karimi 8 View Post
                            If you're watching UFC right now, you'd know why I said dont consider Amirkhani as Iranian. "Mr. Finland", has Finland's flag next to his name, waves a Kurdistan flag/ or Finalnd's, and asked to get introduced as "fighting out of Finland, by way of Kurdistan". Why would we support him lol?
                            Well so do the other three:

                            1. Sirwan Kakai [Nationality: Sweden, waves a Kurdistan flag]

                            2. Gegard Mousasi [Nationality: Netherlands, if he flags the Dutch flag is fine but this guy instead waves a flag of a foreign country "Armenia" that he does not have any connection to apart from ancestry and language, so this guy is worse than Kakai and Amirkhani] It is like saying an Iranian from Tabriz waving an Azerbaijan Republic flag or a Mashhadi waving a Tajikistan flag because they are fellow Khorasani or a person from Bandar Torkaman waving a Turkmenistan flag. So Mousasi has zero loyalty to Iran, at least Amirkhani in his interviews acknowledges he was born in Iran

                            3. Beneil Dariush better than all these guys, although at times he waves the ethnic Assyrian flag while sometimes waves the USA flag. He acknowledges that his country of birth is Iran

                            Anyways EYERANIAN-Armenians are the biggest traitor to Iran when they live abroad. They hide their country of birth and isolate themselves from Iran and Iranians. Some Baluch, Kurds and Khuzi-Arabs are also big traitors. The best are the Assyrians who always acknowledge they are from Iran.
                            Last edited by Rooyintan; 05-28-2018, 05:12 AM.

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                              Originally posted by rooyintan View Post
                              Well so do the other three:

                              1. Sirwan Kakai [Nationality: Sweden, waves a Kurdistan flag]

                              2. Gegard Mousasi [Nationality: Netherlands, if he flags the Dutch flag is fine but this guy instead waves a flag of a foreign country "Armenia" that he does not have any connection to apart from ancestry and language, so this guy is worse than Kakai and Amirkhani] It is like saying an Iranian from Tabriz waving an Azerbaijan Republic flag or a Mashhadi waving a Tajikistan flag because they are fellow Khorasani or a person from Bandar Torkaman waving a Turkmenistan flag. So Mousasi has zero loyalty to Iran, at least Amirkhani in his interviews acknowledges he was born in Iran

                              3. Beneil Dariush better than all these guys, although at times he waves the ethnic Assyrian flag while sometimes waves the USA flag. He acknowledges that his country of birth is Iran

                              Anyways EYERANIAN-Armenians are the biggest traitor to Iran when they live abroad. They hide their country of birth and isolate themselves from Iran and Iranians. Some Baluch, Kurds and Khuzi-Arabs are also big traitors. The best are the Assyrians who always acknowledge they are from Iran.
                              Atleast he can speak Persian, has Iranian friends and does say that he's born in Iran (He was 2 when they moved out, so makes sense that he doesn't have the biggest connection with Iran).

                              Anyways yes, most Iranian-Armenians I've encountered don't consider themselves Iranians even if their family has lived in Iran for more than 200 years.
                              Gorgan the shift-it guy, still considers himself Iranian tho.. So they're not all like that.
                              As for Kurds, the ones I've seen in the Netherlands consider themselves Iranian. However all the Swedish Kurds I've seen so far seem to be separatists..
                              Out of all of these guys, I like Mousasi the most (at least he doesn't hate on us).

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