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    Originally posted by Go_Daei View Post
    Austria invested $20 millions & 4 years in a few sports and only got a bronze. It's very competitive out there.
    Point taken but it can take as many as 4 Olympic cycles for investment to come to fruition. So to explain myself a little better I'll give you an example:

    1. 6 YEARS OLD (2016) - Kid decides to take up wrestling after watching Hasan Yazdani take gold in Rio. You could even argue that he started out late but lets go with 6 anyway.

    2. 10 YEARS OLD (2020) - He starts training at his local club and over the next 4 years is winning regional tournaments.

    3. 14 YEARS OLD (2024) - Due to his stand out performances he regularly attends his countries centre of excellence for sport receiving top coaching and guidance in all others respects (diet, mental, etc). He also starts competing on the international stage getting all the good exposure that this entails.

    4. 18 YEARS OLD (2028) - Attending junior world championships and junior Olympics he starts getting on the podium. Clearly recognised as a top prospect he trains with the senior squad continuing to recieve the best that is on offer in terms of coaching etc.

    I hate to bring up Great Britain as an example as there is no way I would expect Iran to compete in terms of funding but for comparisons sake (in terms of the 4 Olympic cycle):

    The UK government spent just £5m per year funding Olympic sport before the 1996 Atlanta games. But UK Sport spent £54m on elite sports (i.e. targeting sports they were likely to be competitive in) in the run-up to the Sydney games in 2000 - where Britain won 28 medals and ranked 10th. By the time of London 2012 it was spending £264m, and Britain came third in the medal table, with 65 medals.

    So where does that leave Iran? We have seen our national federations unable to send its football team to training camps and secure friendlies against competitive nations. I've not doubt the same applies across the board in other sports.

    Does it all boil down to money? Unfortunately, to large extent YES!

    However, there can be exceptions to the rule were money isn't the only factor (especially in less elitist sports) and this is what we need to exploit.

    IRAN is good at football, weightlifting, taekwondo (lets ignore recent results), karate and of course wrestling (there may be others I have missed). The mullahs and sports ministry need to be pressurised to start supporting our athletes in these sports (perhaps with the exception of football which may be better able to sustain growth without government). Now I realise I am expecting too much but hey we can all dream!!!

    I mentioned in another post I'd love for us to set up a centre of excellence. Would love to see wealthy ex pats (Moshiri I'm talking about you) help set this up.
    “I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler.” - Socrates

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      Originally posted by khosro View Post
      Point taken but it can take as many as 4 Olympic cycles for investment to come to fruition. So to explain myself a little better I'll give you an example:

      1. 6 YEARS OLD (2016) - Kid decides to take up wrestling after watching Hasan Yazdani take gold in Rio. You could even argue that he started out late but lets go with 6 anyway.

      2. 10 YEARS OLD (2020) - He starts training at his local club and over the next 4 years is winning regional tournaments.

      3. 14 YEARS OLD (2024) - Due to his stand out performances he regularly attends his countries centre of excellence for sport receiving top coaching and guidance in all others respects (diet, mental, etc). He also starts competing on the international stage getting all the good exposure that this entails.

      4. 18 YEARS OLD (2028) - Attending junior world championships and junior Olympics he starts getting on the podium. Clearly recognised as a top prospect he trains with the senior squad continuing to recieve the best that is on offer in terms of coaching etc.

      I hate to bring up Great Britain as an example as there is no way I would expect Iran to compete in terms of funding but for comparisons sake (in terms of the 4 Olympic cycle):

      The UK government spent just £5m per year funding Olympic sport before the 1996 Atlanta games. But UK Sport spent £54m on elite sports (i.e. targeting sports they were likely to be competitive in) in the run-up to the Sydney games in 2000 - where Britain won 28 medals and ranked 10th. By the time of London 2012 it was spending £264m, and Britain came third in the medal table, with 65 medals.

      So where does that leave Iran? We have seen our national federations unable to send its football team to training camps and secure friendlies against competitive nations. I've not doubt the same applies across the board in other sports.

      Does it all boil down to money? Unfortunately, to large extent YES!

      However, there can be exceptions to the rule were money isn't the only factor (especially in less elitist sports) and this is what we need to exploit.

      IRAN is good at football, weightlifting, taekwondo (lets ignore recent results), karate and of course wrestling (there may be others I have missed). The mullahs and sports ministry need to be pressurised to start supporting our athletes in these sports (perhaps with the exception of football which may be better able to sustain growth without government). Now I realise I am expecting too much but hey we can all dream!!!

      I mentioned in another post I'd love for us to set up a centre of excellence. Would love to see wealthy ex pats (Moshiri I'm talking about you) help set this up.
      Have you seen Iran volleyball friendlies?

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        If any of you are having withdrawal symptoms watch this.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD84zZ0fuA8

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          This is us outclassing Russian wrestlers to win the Freestyle World Cup this year just a couple months ago in June.

          Last edited by Tehranto; 08-23-2016, 05:42 AM.

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            Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
            This is us outclassing Russian wrestlers to win the Freestyle World Cup this year just a couple months ago in June.

            and how many of russias wrestler were their A team?

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              Originally posted by Ab-Gosht View Post
              and how many of russias wrestler were their A team?
              We had some major injuries in this olympics too azizam.

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                Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                We had some major injuries in this olympics too azizam.
                Dude it's pretty common knowledge that Iran sends its good players give or take a few to the World Cup whereas Russia sends at best maybe one A player and the rest B, C, and even D players. The last three years it's been in LA I actually watched them live all three years

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                  Originally posted by Doroudi View Post
                  Dude it's pretty common knowledge that Iran sends its good players give or take a few to the World Cup whereas Russia sends at best maybe one A player and the rest B, C, and even D players. The last three years it's been in LA I actually watched them live all three years
                  yes exactly

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                    Originally posted by Doroudi View Post
                    Dude it's pretty common knowledge that Iran sends its good players give or take a few to the World Cup whereas Russia sends at best maybe one A player and the rest B, C, and even D players. The last three years it's been in LA I actually watched them live all three years
                    I know. I understand that. I never said we were better than the Russians, who have two of the best wrestlers in the world, by far in Sadulaev and Ramonov - I just said we outclassed them in this tournament. I know Olympics is the be-all, end-all of wrestling. Just wanted to share the clip and show the video. We need 1 or 2 more Yazdanis to close the gap.

                    BTW, Juniors are next week. For those in the know in wrestling - any young thoroughbreds coming that will be future world-beaters?

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                      Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                      I know. I understand that. I never said we were better than the Russians, who have two of the best wrestlers in the world, by far in Sadulaev and Ramonov - I just said we outclassed them in this tournament. I know Olympics is the be-all, end-all of wrestling. Just wanted to share the clip and show the video. We need 1 or 2 more Yazdanis to close the gap.

                      BTW, Juniors are next week. For those in the know in wrestling - any young thoroughbreds coming that will be future world-beaters?
                      Not sure about world beaters and who will make the squad as I haven't seen any announcements (although that should be out by now) but here are a few to keep an eye out for:

                      Amir Reza Amiri - FS 125 Kg
                      Hossein Shahbazigazvar - FS 97 Kg
                      Alireza Godarzi - FS 50Kg (Not sure if he is still eligible due to his age)

                      Not too sure about GR but I've heard we actually have better prospects in this style.
                      “I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler.” - Socrates

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                        Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                        I know. I understand that. I never said we were better than the Russians, who have two of the best wrestlers in the world, by far in Sadulaev and Ramonov - I just said we outclassed them in this tournament. I know Olympics is the be-all, end-all of wrestling. Just wanted to share the clip and show the video. We need 1 or 2 more Yazdanis to close the gap.

                        BTW, Juniors are next week. For those in the know in wrestling - any young thoroughbreds coming that will be future world-beaters?
                        iman sadeghi is one of the hot prospects
                        http://theiranproject.com/blog/2015/...net-sensation/

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                          Most watched Wrestling Video ever on this official channel.. our own Iman Sadeghi

                          Last edited by Tehranto; 08-24-2016, 01:52 PM.

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                            wow - one hour documentary on following 3 Iranian wrestlers who are trying to make it big!

                            http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...280103811.html

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                              درخواست عبدولی از سپاه برای مدافع حرم شدن
                              عضو تیم ملی کشتی فرنگی ایران گفت: می*خواهم مدافع حرم شده و برای دفاع از کشور به سوریه اعزام شوم.
                              به گزارش گروه استان*های باشگاه خبرنگاران جوان؛ سعید عبدولی در مراسم یادواره شهید دانشجوی مدافع حرم احمد الیاسی حاجیوند و شهدای مدافع حرم استان خوزستان در حسینیه عاشقان ثارالله(ع) اندیمشک اظهار داشت: شهدا و رزمندگان مدافع حرم با شجاعت و ایستادگی مثال زدنی خود در برابر گروه*های تکفیری و تروریستی ایستادگی کرده*اند.
                              عضو تیم ملی کشتی فرنگی ایران عنوان کرد: می*خواهم مدافع حرم شده و برای دفاع از کشور به سوریه اعزام شوم و به همین جهت از مسئولان سپاه کشور تقاضای پیگیری برای تحقق این خواسته را دارم.
                              دارنده مدال برنز المپیک 2016 ریو گفت: مدالم را به شهدای مدافع حرم اندیمشک تقدیم می*کنم تا گوشه*ای از زحمات و افتخار این رزمندگان جبران شود.
                              نخستین یادواره در مراسم یادواره شهید دانشجوی مدافع حرم احمد الیاسی حاجیوند و شهدای مدافع حرم استان خوزستان شامگاه گذشته و با حضور پرشور مردم اندیمشک در حسینیه عاشقان ثارالله(ع) این شهر برگزار شد. در این مراسم سعید عبدولی دارنده مدال برنز وزن 75 کیلوگرم تیم ملی کشتی فرنگی مدال برنز خود را به شهدای مدافع حرم اندیمشک تقدیم کرد.
                              این کشتی گیر ملی پوش بعد از کسب مدال برنز گفته بود، مدالم را به عنوان مهم*ترین افتخار ورزشی عمرم را به خانواده شهدای مدافع حرم و 5 شهید مدافع حرم اندیمشک تقدیم می*کنم تا قدردان شجاعت و شهامت مدافعان حرم اهل بیت (ع) باشم.
                              شهید مدافع حرم و حریم اهل بیت (ع) احمد حاجیوند الیاسی از فعالین دانشجو و جهادگران عرصه*ی سازندگی بود که بهمن ماه سال 94 در جریان عملیات آزاد سازی مناطق شیعه نشین نبل و الزهرا در سوریه، به دست تروریست*های تکفیری کور دل به درجه*ی رفیع شهادت نائل آمد.
                              http://www.yjc.ir/fa/news/5753302/%D...B4%D8%AF%D9%86

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                                This is must watch.

                                Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                                wow - one hour documentary on following 3 Iranian wrestlers who are trying to make it big!

                                http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...280103811.html
                                Feel so sorry for the kids in Iran - also, do people like Yazdani make good money? I hope so :*( they are national treasures.

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