Iran Weightlifting News!

[_Navid_]

The biggest losers in this are Russia, Kazakhstan, and Armenia. With over 20 doping offence from 2008 to now, they can only take 1 male + 1 female weightlifter.

Now that we will probably have a 2 male + 2 female quota, will Iran’s Weightlifting Federation allow their female weightlifters to qualify for the 2020 Olympics?




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Unlike Iran, countries like Russia or Armenia or China actually have federations that will strongly act against this. I doubt that this rule will stay the same.
Otherwise we will have to take Rostami and Moradi only. Our female lifters have only been given permission very recently to form so I doubt they will achieve anything.

[Irannn]

The biggest losers in this are Russia, Kazakhstan, and Armenia. With over 20 doping offence from 2008 to now, they can only take 1 male + 1 female weightlifter.

Now that we will probably have a 2 male + 2 female quota, will Iran’s Weightlifting Federation allow their female weightlifters to qualify for the 2020 Olympics?




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Women's weightlifting is VERY new in Iran, they just started that. they don't even have a senior team yet. they started with teenage girls. no chance for 2020 and even maybe 2024. there is no shortcut, with no history of women's weightlifting in Iran, it will take so many years to be competitive even in Asian level.

but who knows, Iran also started Rowing in 2006 and after 2 years they managed to qualify for 2008 Olympics !

[littlepersia17]

BIG news in iranian weightlifting / 2017 World Championship in California!

Women's weightlifting is VERY new in Iran, they just started that. they don't even have a senior team yet. they started with teenage girls. no chance for 2020 and even maybe 2024. there is no shortcut, with no history of women's weightlifting in Iran, it will take so many years to be competitive even in Asian level.

but who knows, Iran also started Rowing in 2006 and after 2 years they managed to qualify for 2008 Olympics !

One more thing Irannn jan, which two weightlifters do you think Iran will take in 2020 Olympics? (If no one was injured).

I know the obvious two that people will point towards are the heavy gold medal favourites, Kianoush and Sohrab.

I personally don’t think the federation won’t take a 105+ weightlifter to the Olympics. They’ve taken one ever since the 2000 Olympics.

I think it will be Sohrab and Behdad going to the Olympics. That’s if Sohrab’s weight category doesn’t get wiped.


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[Irannn]

One more thing Irannn jan, which two weightlifters do you think Iran will take in 2020 Olympics? (If no one was injured).

I know the obvious two that people will point towards are the heavy gold medal favourites, Kianoush and Sohrab.

I personally don’t think the federation won’t take a 105+ weightlifter to the Olympics. They’ve taken one ever since the 2000 Olympics.

I think it will be Sohrab and Behdad going to the Olympics. That’s if Sohrab’s weight category doesn’t get wiped.


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well it's too early, and as you know IWF is going to announce new weight classes in June or July (we will have 10 but 7 of them wll be at the Olympics) we have to see who wll adopt better to the new body weight class.

with two spots available we have to aim for two gold medals. so it also depends on our opponents. we have to wait and see if Talakhadze can stay in top shape. or if Ilyia Ilyin will come back again to use that sole Kazakhstan spot. even Russia will try for the gold with that one Olympic spot.

but if I had to pick right now, I would go with Moradi and Alihosseini, I just don't like Rostami and I think Salimi is almost done. but again this is too early, two years before Rio nobody would expect Sohrab Moradi to be in such a great shape. Alihosseini won silver in his first competition after a big while and he was also injured. if healthy and in shape. he is the only one in the world capable of beating Talakhadze.

we will have Asian Games this year and at least this tme we can send all these guys to win so many medals.

[littlepersia17]

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well it's too early, and as you know IWF is going to announce new weight classes in June or July (we will have 10 but 7 of them wll be at the Olympics) we have to see who wll adopt better to the new body weight class.

with two spots available we have to aim for two gold medals. so it also depends on our opponents. we have to wait and see if Talakhadze can stay in top shape. or if Ilyia Ilyin will come back again to use that sole Kazakhstan spot. even Russia will try for the gold with that one Olympic spot.

but if I had to pick right now, I would go with Moradi and Alihosseini, I just don't like Rostami and I think Salimi is almost done. but again this is too early, two years before Rio nobody would expect Sohrab Moradi to be in such a great shape. Alihosseini won silver in his first competition after a big while and he was also injured. if healthy and in shape. he is the only one in the world capable of beating Talakhadze.

we will have Asian Games this year and at least this tme we can send all these guys to win so many medals.

Yeah I’m not too confident with Rostami winning gold too. The Chilean guy is getting better and better everyday (at least looking at his Instagram) and there is always Tian Tao.

Considering Moradi comfortably beat the total of Hashemi by 13kgs at the Worlds with a 94kgs body weight, he may possibly be a medal contender if he moves up to 105 (once they get rid of 94)

But yeah the Asian Games will make everything much more clearer.



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[inarsenewetrust]

Talk about complete bullshit. There is 10000 different categories for fcking swimming (freestyle,backstroke,butterfly,this stroke that stroke, individual for all of them, then also relay for all of them, and all of those both genders). Weightlifting was already fucked since snatch and C+J are combined into one medal, now this bullshit. How was this allowed to happen??

[Ab-Gosht]

How was this allowed to happen??

doping

[littlepersia17]

Talk about complete bullshit. There is 10000 different categories for fcking swimming (freestyle,backstroke,butterfly,this stroke that stroke, individual for all of them, then also relay for all of them, and all of those both genders). Weightlifting was already fucked since snatch and C+J are combined into one medal, now this bullshit. How was this allowed to happen??

I believe the weightlifting federation got warned to clean up their act, or else weightlifting will be dropped from the Olympics.

It’s just a way for the IWF to act like they’re taking doping seriously. What it will mean though is that some of the best weightlifters in their weight categories won’t compete at the Olympics, because their respective federation has chosen other athletes to compete.



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[_Navid_]

A good piece on this on varzesh3. We have pretty much lost 5 or 6 certain gold medals in 2018 Asian games.

سناریویی که امید را از رشته های پرمدال گرفت
همه چیز علیه مدال آوری ورزش ایران!
شانس افتخارآفرینی ورزشکاران در رشته های مدال آور در بازی های آسیایی و المپیک با اتفاقات اخیر بسیار کم خواهد شد.

به گزارش "ورزش سه" و به نقل از شهروند، المپیک و بازی*های آسیایی به *عنوان ٢ رویداد بزرگ برای ورزش ایران هر ٤ *سال یک*بار می*تواند معیار مناسبی باشد تا مسئولان و مردم به *طور کلی از پیشرفت یا افت رشته*های مختلف باخبر شوند. با این*که اکثرا چند رشته خاص مثل کشتی، وزنه*برداری و تکواندو امیدهای اصلی کاروان ایران در این بازی*ها است، در ماه*های اخیر اتفاقاتی رخ داده که باعث شده سهم این رشته*ها در المپیک و بازی*های آسیایی به حداقل برسد. مسئولان ورزش کشور هم که در نهادهای بین*المللی دارای کرسی خاصی نیستند، فعلا مجبورند به تصمیم*های اتخاذشده علیه ورزش ایران تمکین کنند و بعید است اعتراض آنها به جایی برسد.




کشتی؛ از خطر حذف تا کاهش ٤ سهمیه

با این*که با تلاش اتحادیه جهانی و چند کشور ازجمله ایران خطر حذف کشتی از المپیک ٢٠٢٠ از سر این رشته گذشت، همچنان برای دوره*های بعدی چنین خطری این رشته را تهدید می*کند. البته از المپیک ٢٠١٦ تعداد اوزان کشتی از ٧ به ٦ رسید تا در مجموع ٢ رشته آزاد و فرنگی، ٢ کشتی*گیر کمتر شانس المپیکی*شدن داشته باشند. با این*که در بازی*های آسیایی تعداد اوزان کشتی تا دوره قبلی ٨ وزن در کشتی آزاد و ٨ وزن در کشتی فرنگی بود، چند روز قبل اعلام شد که بازی*های آسیایی ٢٠١٨ هم در اوزان المپیکی برگزار می*شود. با این تصمیم ٤ آزاد و فرنگی*کار ایرانی شانس کسب مدال در بازی*های آسیایی را از دست می*دهند و درمجموع کاروان کشورمان ضرر بزرگی از این اتفاق خواهد کرد. به*عنوان مثال کشتی فرنگی در دوره قبلی از ٨ وزن، ٧ مدال (٢طلا و ٥ برنز) به دست آورده بود که قطعا در این دوره شانس کمتری خواهد داشت.




وزنه*برداری؛ کار از کار گذشت!

زمزمه*هایی از تصمیم فدراسیون جهانی وزنه*برداری برای کاهش اوزان المپیکی این رشته به گوش می*رسید. همچنین به دلیل افزایش تعداد نمونه*های مثبت دوپینگ در این رشته، کمیته بین*المللی المپیک هم چند باری وزنه*برداری را به حذف از المپیک تهدید کرده بود. درنهایت چند روز قبل علاوه بر این*که مشخص شد تعداد سهمیه هر کشور در رشته وزنه*برداری المپیک نهایتا به ٤ خواهد رسید، اعلام شد که ایران ٢ سهمیه در بخش مردان دارد! این در حالی است که در المپیک ٢٠١٦ ایران با ٥ وزنه*بردار حاضر شد و به ٢ مدال طلا رسید. این تصمیم فدراسیون جهانی که به دلیل سابقه ایران در دوپینگ از *سال ٢٠٠٨ به بعد اتخاذ شده، شوک بزرگی به یکی از پرمدال*ترین رشته*های ایران در تاریخ بازی*های المپیک و آسیایی وارد کرد. هنوز درباره کاهش تعداد اوزان وزنه*برداری در بازی*های آسیایی بحثی مطرح نشده اما شاید از دوره*های بعدی چنین اتفاقی هم رخ دهد.




ووشو؛ حذف یک وزن به ضرر ایران

با این*که ووشو هنوز نتوانسته به المپیک راه پیدا کند، اما در بازی*های آسیایی همواره جزو امیدهای اصلی ایران برای کسب مدال محسوب می*شود. از آنجا که چینی*ها در اوزان سبک قدرت بیشتری دارند، از سال*های دور مسابقات ووشو بازی*های آسیایی در اوزان سنگین برگزار نمی*شد. بالاترین وزن تا دوره قبلی ٧٥- کیلوگرم بود که این وزن هم برای بازی*های آسیایی ٢٠١٨ حذف شده و مسابقات ووشو تنها در ٤ وزن سبک برگزار می*شود. حسین اوجاقی، سرمربی تیم*ملی ووشو در این*باره می*گوید: «متاسفانه وزن ٧٥ کیلوگرم از بازی*های آسیایی ٢٠١٨ حذف شده و این کاملا به ضرر ایران است. رقابت*های ووشو این دوره در اوزان ٥٦، ٦٠، ٦٥ و ٧٠ کیلوگرم برگزار می*شود که بیشتر به نفع رقبای شرق آسیایی است. آنها در اوزان سبک تبحر بیشتری دارند و ما در اوزان سنگین دارای شانس* خوبی بودیم که متاسفانه ورزشکاران سنگین*وزن نمی*توانند در جاکارتا حاضر شوند.»




بوکس؛ حذف شانس*های اصلی

در رشته بوکس هم مثل دیگر رشته*های رزمی اوزان سنگین از بازی*های آسیایی حذف شده است. طبق تصمیم ستاد برگزاری بازی*های آسیایی ٢٠١٨ سه وزن ٨١، ٩١ و ٩١+ حذف شده که کاملا به ضرر ایران خواهد بود. امید اصلی بوکس ایران در همین اوزان بوده و در اوزان سبک بعید است شانسی برای کسب مدال داشته باشیم. اکبر احدی، سرمربی تیم بوکس هم اینگونه ماجرا را شرح می*دهد: «اگر در بازی*های آسیایی به دنبال مدال هستیم، اصلا نباید بوکسورها را اعزام کنیم.» احسان روزبهانی که مطرح*ترین بوکسور ایرانی در سال*های اخیر بوده هم با توجه به حذف اوزان سنگین شانس حضور در جاکارتا را از دست داده است.




تکواندو؛ کاهش ٤ سهمیه


تکواندو از دیگر رشته*های مدال*آور در المپیک و بازی*های آسیایی است. با این*که در دوره*های قبلی بازی*های آسیایی مسابقات این رشته در ٨ وزن برگزار می*شد و هر کشور می*توانست ٦ نماینده داشته باشد، برای بازی*های آسیایی جاکارتا اعلام شده که مسابقات فقط در ٤ وزن المپیکی برگزار می*شود. در مجموع ٢ بخش زنان و مردان ٤ سهمیه ایران در تکواندو کاهش پیدا کرده که باز هم خبری ناامید*کننده برای این رشته مدال*آور محسوب می*شود و البته کار کادرفنی تیم*های ملی را سخت*تر می*کند.




تیراندازی با کمان؛ یک طلای مسلم پرید

با این*که در المپیک تیراندازی با کمان صرفا در ماده ریکرو پیگیری می*شود، بازی*های آسیایی تنها امید کمانداران ماده کامپوند بود تا بدرخشند. ایران در ماده کامپوند نشان داده که حتی در سطح جهان نیز حرف*های زیادی برای گفتن دارد و چند باری روی سکوی انفرادی و تیمی هم رفته است. در دوره قبلی اسماعیل عبادی در بخش انفرادی کامپوند به مدال طلا رسید اما با تصمیم ستاد برگزاری بازی*های آسیایی ٢٠١٨، مسابقات کامپوند فقط در بخش تیمی برگزار می*شود. بدین ترتیب حداقل شانس کسب یک مدال طلا از ایران گرفته شده و فقط کمانداران می*توانند در بخش تیمی مدال*آوری کنند.




همه چیز علیه مدال*آوری ایران!

به نظر می*رسد تصمیماتی که در ماه*های اخیر از سوی ستاد برگزاری بازی*های آسیایی و همچنین فدراسیون جهانی رشته*های مختلف اتخاذ شده، به ضرر ورزش ایران است. کشتی، وزنه*برداری و تکواندو همواره شانس*های اصلی کسب مدال در بازی*های آسیایی و المپیک برای کاروان ایران بودند که حالا با محدودیت*هایی مواجه شده*اند. از سوی دیگر کاراته هم که از *سال ٢٠٢٠ به المپیک اضافه می*شود، با توجه به شرایط کسب سهمیه کار سختی خواهد داشت. متاسفانه مدیران ورزش ایران نقشی در تصمیم*گیری*های کلان ورزش جهان به دلیل نداشتن کرسی بین*المللی ندارند و همین موضوع به صورت ناخودآگاه اتفاقات را علیه مدال*آوری ورزش ایران رقم زده است. این اتفاقات می*تواند هشداری برای مدیران ورزش کشور باشد که از این پس نمی*توانند تنها به مدال*آوری چند رشته خاص دل خوش کنند و باید در رشته*هایی مثل دوومیدانی، شنا و تیراندازی که مدال*های زیادی در آنها توزیع می*شود، سرمایه*گذاری بیشتری داشته باشند وگرنه کاروان ایران هم در بازی*های آسیایی و هم در المپیک با افت جدی در رنکینگ مواجه خواهد شد.

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[Ab-Gosht]

Elahe Ahmadi just broke the world record in shooting! She did awesome in olympics too but it was obvious she is still developing and now sh'e peacked!

[Irannn]

A good piece on this on varzesh3. We have pretty much lost 5 or 6 certain gold medals in 2018 Asian games.

I would like to write a detailed post about the Asian Games and our chances but the article is nothing new. I have to say "shame on Iranian media " for mentioning this right now when it's too late. they announced these changes in November 2017 and they are all finalized in February. we had our chance to stand against some of them and it worked for two sports actually. (not that Iran did anything but the Asian Federations of Weightlifting and Karate stood up against the greedy Indonesian organizers)

and about the article

* Wrestling, That was very obvious that we won't have non-Olympic weights in the Asian Games. we had them last time in Incheon only because South Korea is good in this. I'm not complaining about this one. and in fact we lost two medal chances not four. why ? because even with 8 weights in the program each country could send 7 wrestlers. so last time we had chance for 14 medals in wrestling, now we have 12.

* Weightlifting, while our stupid media was sleeping, the organizers dropped the +105kg from the competition ! (I'm not kidding, I have the PDF file for that) but the Asian Federation didn't accept that and dropped 62kg instead. but since Indonesia is good in this weight, they added this one back too and we wll have 8 weight classes for the Asian Games. but this is the last time. from 2019 we will have 10 weight classes (7 at the olympics). and this will be up to the 2022 Asian Games organizers to have a full 10 weights program or just 7 Olympic weights but we are fine at least for Jakarta 2018.

* Wushu, yeah that's true they dropped 75kg which Iran had a good chance for the gold. now we have 4 Sanda events. still no chance in number of athletes for Iran, because even with 5 events we could still send only 4. but with China benig almost unbeatable in this sport. all of our 4 Sanda athletes have to go through China to win the gold, I see only Mohammadseifi being capable of that. he had beaten China before.

* Boxing, again, that's true and unbelievable how come they dropped 3 heaviest weights ! those weights were only chances for medal in boxing, now we have almost no chance. but we had no chance for the gold so it doesn't affect our gold medal numbers.

*Taekwondo, yeah we had some stupid changes which hurts Iran but the article is still stupid and lacks knowledge. first we will have 5 weights per gender and not 4 ! guess why ? because Indonesia had one good athlete in one non-Olympic weight and added that specific to the program ! which means instead of sending 6 athletes per gender now we can send 5. means losing 2 medal chances but instead there will be 4 Poomsae events. and we have good chance for medal in all 4 of them. so instead of 12 medal chances. now we have 14. but still I would prefer the old format. because now all of athletes have to beat Korea for the gold medal. they are almost unbeatable in Poomsae and they have 2-3 very very good fighters in Kyorugi. considering our current bad results I believe we can't repeat 2014 results with 4 gold medals. I would be happy with 2.
in original documents, only host nation was allowed to participate in all events. but they changed it after protests from Iran and other Asian countries.

* Archery, that's BS to think we have " sure gold" medal in Archery, nothing is guaranteed in this sport and if someone follows our currents results (which Iranian media obviously doesn't) we are in terrible shape and we ended up with just one bronze medal in last Asian Championship ! of course it hurts our medal chance but it's not like we lost a sure gold.

[Irannn]

Elahe Ahmadi just broke the world record in shooting! She did awesome in olympics too but it was obvious she is still developing and now sh'e peacked!

while this is very good news but you should consider they just changed the format in this event (60 shots instead of 40) and erased all old world records . so let's say she has the best result of 2018 year. and btw this is not going to be official world record . world records only can be broken during the ISSF international events.

in shooting everything is possible but all depends on the competition day. she would win an Olympic medal in Rio if we had the same format as 2012. back in 2012 they would consider the sum of qualification and final round points. she had a very good qualification result in 2016 but unfortunately for her based on new rules they erased them.

[Nokhodi]

I would like to write a detailed post about the Asian Games and our chances but the article is nothing new. I have to say "shame on Iranian media " for mentioning this right now when it's too late. they announced these changes in November 2017 and they are all finalized in February. we had our chance to stand against some of them and it worked for two sports actually. (not that Iran did anything but the Asian Federations of Weightlifting and Karate stood up against the greedy Indonesian organizers)

and about the article

* Wrestling, That was very obvious that we won't have non-Olympic weights in the Asian Games. we had them last time in Incheon only because South Korea is good in this. I'm not complaining about this one. and in fact we lost two medal chances not four. why ? because even with 8 weights in the program each country could send 7 wrestlers. so last time we had chance for 14 medals in wrestling, now we have 12.

* Weightlifting, while our stupid media was sleeping, the organizers dropped the +105kg from the competition ! (I'm not kidding, I have the PDF file for that) but the Asian Federation didn't accept that and dropped 62kg instead. but since Indonesia is good in this weight, they added this one back too and we wll have 8 weight classes for the Asian Games. but this is the last time. from 2019 we will have 10 weight classes (7 at the olympics). and this will be up to the 2022 Asian Games organizers to have a full 10 weights program or just 7 Olympic weights but we are fine at least for Jakarta 2018.

* Wushu, yeah that's true they dropped 75kg which Iran had a good chance for the gold. now we have 4 Sanda events. still no chance in number of athletes for Iran, because even with 5 events we could still send only 4. but with China benig almost unbeatable in this sport. all of our 4 Sanda athletes have to go through China to win the gold, I see only Mohammadseifi being capable of that. he had beaten China before.

* Boxing, again, that's true and unbelievable how come they dropped 3 heaviest weights ! those weights were only chances for medal in boxing, now we have almost no chance. but we had no chance for the gold so it doesn't affect our gold medal numbers.

*Taekwondo, yeah we had some stupid changes which hurts Iran but the article is still stupid and lacks knowledge. first we will have 5 weights per gender and not 4 ! guess why ? because Indonesia had one good athlete in one non-Olympic weight and added that specific to the program ! which means instead of sending 6 athletes per gender now we can send 5. means losing 2 medal chances but instead there will be 4 Poomsae events. and we have good chance for medal in all 4 of them. so instead of 12 medal chances. now we have 14. but still I would prefer the old format. because now all of athletes have to beat Korea for the gold medal. they are almost unbeatable in Poomsae and they have 2-3 very very good fighters in Kyorugi. considering our current bad results I believe we can't repeat 2014 results with 4 gold medals. I would be happy with 2.
in original documents, only host nation was allowed to participate in all events. but they changed it after protests from Iran and other Asian countries.

* Archery, that's BS to think we have " sure gold" medal in Archery, nothing is guaranteed in this sport and if someone follows our currents results (which Iranian media obviously doesn't) we are in terrible shape and we ended up with just one bronze medal in last Asian Championship ! of course it hurts our medal chance but it's not like we lost a sure gold.

Iranian media likes regurgitating articles about
1) IFF Adidas contract which is very self explanatory but the media likes to think its something out of the orindary.
2) Stories about some asshole MP talking about Masoud Shojaei
3) Shaefer and Branko and how they have problems with CQ
4) CQ
5) fake transfers

They're mostly illiterate and gossip more than 12 year old girls. They can barely read and write Persian, let alone another language.
Just look at Pezhman Rahbar, the owner of varzesh3. The guy makes up so much stuff and he's considered one of the good ones!

[Adesor Vafaseya]

Posts from old thread http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...42#post2539942 are trasnfered here (2017 is well over...) pls continue here!

Thanks!
Amoo Adessy

[Ata]

iranian girls clothing was accepted for Asian junior weightlifting championship

they will compete in two days for the first time.