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    Originally posted by AGC View Post
    I've been talking of this cause I can't believe my eyes regarding DT. But I honestly don't know. Only know that it is way more rigorous than in worlds competitions. They should test each and everyone that competes. Blood, urine samples the whole kit! They should keep it for 20 years. Zero tolerance: Fail one time, get stripped of all medals regardless of when testing positive and life time ban!

    Exactly: Lets see what happens! Time will tell!
    Absolutely. Hope IOC has the guts of taking away an American Gold Medal AND give it to an Iranian.
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      BTW remember Taymazov und Ilia Ilyin? This is actually very funny. The Prestige of Olympics has been shattered.
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        @AGC
        Most funny thing was Saeed Mohammadpour. I still have to laugh about this. Haha. From fifth place to Gold. Sick.

        I mean did he even care about this medal anymore?
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          Originally posted by Babak500 View Post
          BTW remember Taymazov und Ilia Ilyin? This is actually very funny. The Prestige of Olympics has been shattered.
          Yes!

          I totally agree

          Personally I will leave the discussions of PEDs because ppl will think im a sore loser. I want to emphasize that I hope DT is 100 percent clean and that we should regard him that way until the opposite is proven. It's not even about him rather than martial arts and power sports at olympics and how ridden it is with the problem.

          It's hard to avoid though when people are thinking that there are extreme stamina issues in iranian wrestling. Thing is: This is a recurring discussion that has it's roots right after the war with Iraq. That generation had horrible stamina. The generation before this selection ie 2014 had really good stamina in Iran...but in retrospect they were injury ridden.

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            WOW, did now know the picture!

            Strange stuff.

            https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/429...2-Olympic-gold
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              Originally posted by Babak500 View Post
              WOW, did now know the picture!

              Strange stuff.

              https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/429...2-Olympic-gold
              Which picture? The awards? Thats so great!

              Now Taymazov not only ruined the celebrations for our Beloved pahlavan Ghassemi but also for Alireza Rezaei ....he would've popped for 2004 too if it werent for prescription time! And now that sore cheater is refusing to return the medals.

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                LOOL

                https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2...khtiy-stripped

                https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/454...-2012-Olympics
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                  Originally posted by AGC View Post
                  Which picture? The awards? Thats so great!

                  Now Taymazov not only ruined the celebrations for our Beloved pahlavan Ghassemi but also for Alireza Rezaei ....he would've popped for 2004 too if it werent for prescription time! And now that sore cheater is refusing to return the medals.
                  Yes, Mohammadpour. Its great...dont know how he felt about it though. You want to celebrate the moment on the podium actually.

                  God only knows how many medals they robbed from us this way...

                  And Taymazov? Russian guy who fought for Uzbekistan. Shame on him!
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                    @AGC
                    What about 2016? Any hopes there we move higher through doping cases?
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                      Maybe! Agencies have learn't to keep samples and retest them cause cheating techniques get more sophisticated. Blood doping is advanced.

                      Now I have a confession to make that will not sit down easily with fellow hamvatans in here: I will not watch or follow Mohammadian tomorrow cause of his history. He had anabolic steroids in his body and basically blamed it on diluted protein shakes! So much dishonour and un-Iranian wrestling culture going on.....

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                        Originally posted by AGC View Post
                        I've been talking of this cause I can't believe my eyes regarding DT. But I honestly don't know. Only know that it is way more rigorous than in worlds competitions. They should test each and everyone that competes. Blood, urine samples the whole kit! They should keep it for 20 years. Zero tolerance: Fail one time, get stripped of all medals regardless of when testing positive and life time ban!

                        Exactly: Lets see what happens! Time will tell!
                        as of now all credit to DT. having said that, I know hes always been a great wrestler for US but he is also 30 and really just became elite at worldwide tournaments over the past few years if im not mistaken. usually wrestlers dont just magically appear in their late 20's as far as im aware. Apparently it was due to him always focusing on wrestling in his youth and not putting time in the gym. well supposedly he got his fitness and stamina to a whole new level and that is why he is dominant. does seem a little sus to me but I guess time will tell

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                          Also want to add that things have moved forward regarding the Wrestling federation:

                          - I have honestly seen extreme decrease in extreme cases of biased refrees. They even sent home 3 during 2016 olympics!

                          - Since 2016 I can't honestly say I have seen refree mistakes obviously biased.

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                            Originally posted by Ostad_Goosfand View Post
                            as of now all credit to DT. having said that, I know hes always been a great wrestler for US but he is also 30 and really just became elite at worldwide tournaments over the past few years if im not mistaken. usually wrestlers dont just magically appear in their late 20's as far as im aware. Apparently it was due to him always focusing on wrestling in his youth and not putting time in the gym. well supposedly he got his fitness and stamina to a whole new level and that is why he is dominant. does seem a little sus to me but I guess time will tell
                            Yes but to his defence: Their weight classes have been stacked in the Us in 74 kg and 86 kg ... Now 86 kg is a joke in the US

                            But then again: In his fights with Cox for the 2017 worlds he totally broke Cox down. Are iranians saying Cox is weak? lol He was horsing Cox around. Cox just sweated and stalled in every fight. It was one of the grossest display of sweating ive ever seen!

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                              Originally posted by AGC View Post
                              Maybe! Agencies have learn't to keep samples and retest them cause cheating techniques get more sophisticated. Blood doping is advanced.

                              Now I have a confession to make that will not sit down easily with fellow hamvatans in here: I will not watch or follow Mohammadian tomorrow cause of his history. He had anabolic steroids in his body and basically blamed it on diluted protein shakes! So much dishonour and un-Iranian wrestling culture going on.....
                              I seriously hope and pray all of our athletes are clean! Dont want to see this happens to us losing medals in few years because of such cheating.
                              Sign against banning Iran from WorldCup!!!
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                                I was told, Yaz, was instructed to lose. Sorry cannot say more.

                                If he won, Millions could pour into streets and demonstrate which could not be handled.

                                As DT mentioned, Yaz was stronger and could have won it. The timing was the issue in several cities if he won, how to control the crowd. Millions could demonstrate and chant.
                                چو ایران نباشد تن من مباد

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