IR’s Mismanagement and Destruction of Iranian Athletes!

[Adesor Vafaseya]

Since its impossible to keep IR’s devastation and destruction of Iran and its effects on our sports separate, I create this thread for separate discussion!


Pls kindly keep the other thread for updates on olympics and sports only and use this thread for equally if not more important discussions!

Pls remain respectful in your posts and do not violate PFDC rules, link to those rules under my signature.


Thanks

[webmaster]

IR’s Mismanagement and Destruction of Iranian Athletes!

A government crushes its people brutaly and takes any glimpse of freedom away from them and the people respond with less enthusiasm to get any medals for them. I think this is only natural. The IR Olympic participant have almost no hunger to win.

I think this is why we are experiencing our worst appearance this time around so far as I could be wrong but when 2 Iranians have to fight each other because of the regime, the IR is surely not a great country to represent anymore.

Sorry for the politics, but I guess it is effecting our performances so let's talk about it.

[Babak500]

A government crushes its people brutaly and takes any glimpse of freedom away from them and the people respond with less enthusiasm to get any medals for them. I think this is only natural. The IR Olympic participant have almost no hunger to win.
I think this is why we are experiencing our worst appearance this time around so far as I could be wrong but when 2 Iranians have to fight each other because of the regime, the IR is surely not a great country to represent anymore.
Sorry for the politics, but I guess it is effecting our performances so let's talk about it.

If you say they are not motivated to win etc. then please explain why 2012 and 2016 were our two best Olympic performances yet. This time around we mostly lack quality really.

Also prestige of Olympics because of IOC corruption/cheating/doping etc is also down.

[Babak500]

Sucks our athletes suffer Bc the world judges the athletes and people by the backward/bloody govt that rules over them. Always sad for those great athletes

Does not matter. They are not following their own Olympic charter, which forbids this. This is partially racism (see German cycling coach) and partially bribing (prime example Uzbeks/Kazakhs in Boxing)

[webmaster]

I am surprised you guys keep warning us to keep politics out of discussion here but... anyways it's not my site so ....

If this is my site then why ask???? Better to be quiet then or it won't end well.

You are so blind and of course ignorant who doesn't see that our people are suffering in every trade of life yet you come here and challenge the truth and defend the IR?? You know I'll catch you so why do it?

Look at Japan. They took us in football and now its volleyball. If you have a good system people advance and if your system sucks we go back every day and that's what's happening.

Now either come clean that you are an IR supporter or shut up. Because our problem is people like you which Im on you guys so blah blah blah go blame everything on the rain, Olympics committee, luck, unfairness and not enough talent because you know it is a BS.

Our problem is the system and government of our country that is destroying our people and their talents just how they ask them not to compete with Israelis. So this is not political???? So if these fuckers are politicizing everything, why shouldn't we?? Grow up. This Olympic IS about politics hence we have Refugee participants.

[shahin2000]

we can only count more or less on the wrestlers now. and a little weightlifting and karate maybe.

Shabake 3 can go to hell and eat shit after the way they treated Kimia Alizadeh.

[shahin2000]

USA also eliminated from volleyball in group stages.

3-0L in straight sets to argentina

USA also has over 2500 medals in its summer olympics history.

[shahin2000]

If this is my site then why ask???? Better to be quiet then or it won't end well.

You are so blind and 0f course ignorant who doesn't see that our people are suffering in every trade of life yet you come here and challenge the truth and defend the IR?? You know I'll catch you so why do it?

Look at Japan. They took us in football and now its volleyball. If you have a good system people advance and if your system sucks we go back every day and that's what happening.

Now either come clean that you are an IR supporter or shut up. Because our problem is people like you which Im on you guys so blah blah blah go blame everything on luck and not enough talent because you know it is a BS. Our problem is the system and government of our country.

Challenge the truth and defend IR... where are you getting all this stuff from? I am upset just like the rest of the people who support the athletes and want for them to excel no matter what. Dude all I said was it was interesting that we kept getting warned about politicizing our comments and yet you do it. I don't care. In our Iranian culture one goes hand in hand with the other no matter the situation.
I understand you are upset but you gotta keep your cool and if you want to ban me so be it. It's your own site and you can go on a power surge and do as you please.

[webmaster]

Read my post again. Specially the last paragraph. Then I guess you'll get what I mean.

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[webmaster]

Shabake 3 can go to hell and eat shit after the way they treated Kimia Alizadeh.

I'm sure you know its not just a TV channel. Its the whole Islamic Republic. Because shabakeh3 gets their orders from Rahbare Jakesh.

[shahin2000]

@webmaster:
Again we are all mad and rightfully so. Let's just pour positive energy to the remaining Iranian athletes and hope we can go back home with more than one medal.

[dcpp]

As much as I doubt that an athlete will go to the Olympics without any will.

I also think that governments have a big role into sports. They haven't done shit for our athletes and sports in general but as soon as one shines, they try to turn them into regime's puppets, that's what happened with alizadeh or in Molaei's case they threaten his family for him to give because he may face an Israeli. Where in the world does that happen?

Look at how many educated leave Iran as soon as they have the opportunity. The same applies to our sportsmen. And indeed if we have something we deeply believe in we can go the extra mile and get better results.

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[inarsenewetrust]

USA also has over 2500 medals in its summer olympics history.

Any reason you felt offended enough to clarify that?

Only reason I mention is to highlight how competitive olympics is for volleyball and how a little bit of squad disunity or failing to execute can lead to even very strong teams being dumped.

[PersianLion80]

I'm sure you know its not just a TV channel. Its the whole Islamic Republic. Because shabakeh3 gets their orders from Rahbare Jakesh.

Won’t speak anymore about politics here . But thank you webmaster for taking a stand. It baffles me to this day that any Iranian would support this despotic , anti-Iranian regime, who have destroyed Iran’s environment, resources, livelihoods, advancement, etc..Some of the most ardent supporters live abroad and from time to time go back for “fun.” But our people/athletes have to live under a suffocating system where sadness and despair for centuries dead arabs takes precedent over all; where happiness is frowned upon and you dare oppose these tyrants, you can end up dead. It’s a miracle we achieve anything in sports when our athletic infrastructure is still from the 70’s.
God bless these athletes who put up with this and more and still achieve

[Mahsaa]

so sad to see a small country which was a province of iran be more attractive so that iranians go to azerbaijan, look at sabah shariati, saman tamasebi, milad beigi, the swimmer khanalizadeh and and and