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    #46
    CQ is a coach, and a coach's job is to win - especially a National team's coach. CQ realized that the players he has to deal with aren't as talented as the oppositions, so he uses strategic tactics to increase our probability of winning the game.

    This is the international level, not the development level. European clubs can scout players from our domestic league, where we develop our players to play on the national team.

    National teams are a collection of a nation's best players to win games, not to be developed - that what clubs are for.
    We are currently witnessing a revolution in Iranian football. Team Melli has never been stronger than it is today, and we will only get better.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Javeed View Post
      CQ is a coach, and a coach's job is to win - especially a National team's coach. CQ realized that the players he has to deal with aren't as talented as the oppositions, so he uses strategic tactics to increase our probability of winning the game.

      This is the international level, not the development level. European clubs can scout players from our domestic league, where we develop our players to play on the national team.

      National teams are a collection of a nation's best players to win games, not to be developed - that what clubs are for.
      This is true in an Ideal World.

      But top European scouts look for players in Major tournaments or Major Leagues not IPL

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        #48
        Originally posted by Javeed View Post
        CQ is a coach, and a coach's job is to win - especially a National team's coach. CQ realized that the players he has to deal with aren't as talented as the oppositions, so he uses strategic tactics to increase our probability of winning the game.

        This is the international level, not the development level. European clubs can scout players from our domestic league, where we develop our players to play on the national team.

        National teams are a collection of a nation's best players to win games, not to be developed - that what clubs are for.
        Hello welcome back Aryan. Do you believe that Bahraini, Omani, and Iraqi, players are more talented than Iranians?

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          #49
          Originally posted by TM homeboy View Post
          I don't think CQ should be replaced as the alternatives are not great and I think he has many positive attributes as well.
          But I think he should grow some B**ls and have more faith in the Iranian talents offensively, while continuing to instill discipline and defensive strategies hes applied in the past.
          Also one major point is to have a Creative play maker in the middle, so we don't look so lost offensively.
          Do u ever watch chelsea ? Mourinhos tactis is the same as cq's but they have the material to execute it. The problem isnt his tactics but the potential of The pool he had to deal with, aging average legionares and unexposed youths.

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            #50
            Carlos Quieroz was right to play defensive during the world cup, there was very little football talent available, however i do blame him for not selecting Khalatbari and Azmoun. He relies too much on defensive and physical football. Having said that the man is by far the best football coach i have ever seen to work for TM! Maheli Kohan, Talebi, Ivankovic, Ghalenoei, Ali Daei and Qotbi where all trash, amateur coaches at best.

            But now that we do have talented and skilled young players such as Ezatolahi, Torabi, Jahanbaksh, Azmoun, Amiri, Rahmani,Sadeghian and Mohammadi etc i expect too see more attacking minded football.

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              #51
              Pouladi was one of the best players in WC group stages. I think he was able to show his talents.

              Same with Haghighi.

              Recently Amiri has been in fire in TM.

              Again, the reasons are different.
              راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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                #52
                Originally posted by MR.S View Post
                Do u ever watch chelsea ? Mourinhos tactis is the same as cq's but they have the material to execute it. The problem isnt his tactics but the potential of The pool he had to deal with, aging average legionares and unexposed youths.
                As a good coach should adjust his tactics based on the resources he has

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by TM homeboy View Post
                  The World Cup has always been used as a platform for TM players to showcase their talents, if CQ establishes a super defensive strategy and closed team defense. TM players will not have a chance to showcase their talents.


                  Trust me if in 1998 Mahdavikia, Azzizi, Daie and Bagheri were instructed to play extra defensive and have an area to patrol and not deviate from rigid instructions, They probably would not stand out like they did and they would at best gotten offers from Russian league, German and Holland 2nd division leagues.
                  Newsflash - Azizi, Daie, and Bagheri were already playing in Germany prior to the '98 WC.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                    Hello welcome back Aryan. Do you believe that Bahraini, Omani, and Iraqi, players are more talented than Iranians?
                    Hi and thank you for the very insightful question.

                    To answer that: No, I do not believe they are better than Iranian players. However, I do believe you are the most incompetent person on this board.
                    We are currently witnessing a revolution in Iranian football. Team Melli has never been stronger than it is today, and we will only get better.

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                      #55
                      We are currently witnessing a revolution in Iranian football. Team Melli has never been stronger than it is today, and we will only get better.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Javeed View Post
                        Hi and thank you for the very insightful question.

                        To answer that: No, I do not believe they are better than Iranian players. However, I do believe you are the most incompetent person on this board.
                        So then mr Aryan why do you say that Queiroz uses this strategy because the players arent as talented as the opponents?

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by TM homeboy View Post
                          As a good coach should adjust his tactics based on the resources he has
                          so what tactics do u use for aging avarage players?

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                            So then mr Aryan why do you say that Queiroz uses this strategy because the players arent as talented as the opponents?
                            Mr. Ali, if you've been watching the matches, you will notice that we've only been using this strategy against considerably stronger opponents. Against weaker teams, we play a possessive game.

                            Need some possession stats? Here you go:

                            Iran 37% - 63% Nigeria (Result: 0-0)
                            Iran 30% - Argentina 70% (Result: 1-0 loss, Messi)
                            Iran 38% - Bosnia 62% (Result: 3-1 loss)
                            Iran 26% - Chile 74% (Result: 2-0 win)

                            Now let's look at the Arab opponents:

                            Iran 50% - 50% Bahrain (Result: 2-0 win)
                            Iran 48% - 52% Iraq (Result: loss on PKs, but held 48% with 10 men)
                            We are currently witnessing a revolution in Iranian football. Team Melli has never been stronger than it is today, and we will only get better.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Javeed View Post
                              Mr. Ali, if you've been watching the matches, you will notice that we've only been using this strategy against considerably stronger opponents. Against weaker teams, we play a possessive game.

                              Need some possession stats? Here you go:

                              Iran 37% - 63% Nigeria (Result: 0-0)
                              Iran 30% - Argentina 70% (Result: 1-0 loss, Messi)
                              Iran 38% - Bosnia 62% (Result: 3-1 loss)
                              Iran 26% - Chile 74% (Result: 2-0 win)

                              Now let's look at the Arab opponents:

                              Iran 50% - 50% Bahrain (Result: 2-0 win)
                              Iran 48% - 52% Iraq (Result: loss on PKs, but held 48% with 10 men)
                              Hello again mr aryan
                              Im not sure where you got your stats but the official asian cup stats are different as they show bahrain out possessing iran. I also dont think Chile had that much possession.
                              You seem to have left out the iraq friendly, as well games vs oman, qatar where queiroz let the other team have possession. At the end of the day Iran got the results but it seems your incompetence shows when you say Queiroz only plays this style because he saw players werent as talented as the opponents.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Javeed View Post
                                Hi and thank you for the very insightful question.

                                To answer that: No, I do not believe they are better than Iranian players. However, I do believe you are the most incompetent person on this board.
                                Long time no see! Where have been MR. Javeed (Aryan)?

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